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Subject: Re: crafty 16.3 - something broken in K and P endgames?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:43:10 01/31/99

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On January 30, 1999 at 23:54:15, James B. Shearer wrote:

>       I was playing Fitter on ICC and was surprised when it let me escape with
>a draw in a K and P endgame.  I checked the key position afterwards with crafty
>16.3 (on a 233 k6 PC).  Crafty 16.3 takes 2 hours to find the winning move, h4,
>at ply 16 (see log below).  On the other hand crafty 15.15 finds h4 in 8 seconds
>at ply 10.  Fritz 4 also finds h4 in a few seconds.  Looks like you may have
>broken something.
>                                James B. Shearer


you must have something broken on your machine, first.  I ran this on my
PII/300 notebook, and get to ply 16 in a minute, not hours.  Is your machine
swapping/paging a lot?  It takes me to depth=16 to fail high on h4, takes 2:00
on my notebook, and 25 seconds on my quad xeon...  I couldn't begin to explain
why it would take hours to get to ply=16 there...  I am at ply=17 failing high
again after only 3 minutes on my notebook.

No idea why it takes 16 plies however... but I'll look...




>hash table memory = 12M bytes.
>pawn hash table memory = 2M bytes.
>EGTB access enabled
>using tbpath=./TB
>0 piece tablebase files found
>pondering disabled.
>book learning disabled
>result learning disabled
>position learning disabled
>noise level set to 0.
>
>
>Crafty v16.3
>
>
>White(1): in fit40
>White(1): setboard 8/8/4p1p1/1p1pPk1p/p2Pp3/P1P3PP/1P2K3/8 b - - 0 40
>
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    8  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    7  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    6  |   |   |   |   | *P|   | *P|   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    5  |   | *P|   | *P| P | *K|   | *P|
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    4  | *P|   |   | P | *P|   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    3  | P |   | P |   |   |   | P | P |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    2  |   | P |   |   | K |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    1  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>         a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h
>
>Black(1): exit
>
>Black(1):
>Black(1): analyze
>end-game phase
>              clearing hash tables
>              time surplus   0.00  time limit 30.00 (3:00)
>              depth   time  score   variation (1)
>                1     0.01   2.51   1. ... g5
>                1->   0.02   2.51   1. ... g5
>                2     0.02     --   1. ... g5
>                2     0.03   2.06   1. ... g5 2. h4
>                2->   0.04   2.06   1. ... g5 2. h4
>                3     0.05   1.86   1. ... g5 2. Kd2 Kg6 3. h4
>                3->   0.06   1.86   1. ... g5 2. Kd2 Kg6 3. h4
>                4     0.07   1.81   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 g4 3. h4
>                4->   0.09   1.81   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 g4 3. h4
>                5     0.10   1.87   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 h4 3. gxh4 gxh4 4.
>                                    b4
>                5->   0.13   1.87   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 h4 3. gxh4 gxh4 4.
>                                    b4
>                6     0.15   1.61   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 h4 3. g4+ Kg6 4. Kf2
>                                    Kf7 5. Ke3
>                6->   0.18   1.61   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 h4 3. g4+ Kg6 4. Kf2
>                                    Kf7 5. Ke3
>                7     0.36   1.77   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 g4 3. h4 Kg6 4. Kf4
>                                    Kf7
>                7->   0.58   1.77   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 g4 3. h4 Kg6 4. Kf4
>                                    Kf7
>                8     0.84   1.71   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 Kg6 3. Kf2 h4 4. g4
>                                    Kf7 5. Ke3 Ke7 6. b4 <HT>
>                8->   0.88   1.71   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 Kg6 3. Kf2 h4 4. g4
>                                    Kf7 5. Ke3 Ke7 6. b4 <HT>
>                9     1.39   1.71   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 Kg6 3. Kf2 h4 4. g4
>                                    Kf7 5. Ke3 Ke7
>                9->   1.53   1.71   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 Kg6 3. Kf2 h4 4. g4
>                                    Kf7 5. Ke3 Ke7
>               10     3.57   1.71   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 Kg6 3. Kf2 h4 4. g4
>                                    Kf7 5. Ke2 Ke7 6. Ke3
>               10->   3.67   1.71   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 Kg6 3. Kf2 h4 4. g4
>                                    Kf7 5. Ke2 Ke7 6. Ke3
>               11     6.64   1.71   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 Kg6 3. g4 hxg4 4.
>                                    hxg4 Kf7 5. Ke2 Ke7 6. Ke3 Kd7 7. b4
>               11->   7.36   1.71   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 Kg6 3. g4 hxg4 4.
>                                    hxg4 Kf7 5. Ke2 Ke7 6. Ke3 Kd7 7. b4
>               12    13.20   1.71   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 Kg6 3. Kf2 h4 4. g4
>                                    Kf7 5. Ke2 Ke7 6. Kd2 Kd7 7. Ke3
>               12->  13.98   1.71   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 Kg6 3. Kf2 h4 4. g4
>                                    Kf7 5. Ke2 Ke7 6. Kd2 Kd7 7. Ke3
>               13    34.12   1.71   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 Kg6 3. Kf2 h4 4. g4
>                                    Kf7 5. Ke2 Ke7 6. Kd2 Kd7 7. Ke3 Ke7
>               13->  36.71   1.71   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 Kg6 3. Kf2 h4 4. g4
>                                    Kf7 5. Ke2 Ke7 6. Kd2 Kd7 7. Ke3 Ke7
>               14     1:18   1.71   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 Kg6 3. Kf2 h4 4. g4
>                                    Kf7 5. Ke2 Ke7 6. Kd2 Kd7 7. Ke2 Kc6
>                                    8. Ke3
>               14->   1:27   1.71   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 Kg6 3. Kf2 h4 4. g4
>                                    Kf7 5. Ke2 Ke7 6. Kd2 Kd7 7. Ke2 Kc6
>                                    8. Ke3
>               15     3:19   1.71   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 Kg6 3. Kf2 h4 4. g4
>                                    Kf7 5. Ke2 Ke7 6. Ke3 Kd7 7. Ke2 Kc6
>                                    8. Ke3 Kd7
>               15->  39:42   1.71   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 Kg6 3. Kf2 h4 4. g4
>                                    Kf7 5. Ke2 Ke7 6. Ke3 Kd7 7. Ke2 Kc6
>                                    8. Ke3 Kd7
>               16    47:08   1.71   1. ... g5 2. Ke3 Kg6 3. Kf2 h4 4. g4
>                                    Kf7 5. Ke2 Ke7 6. Ke3 Kd7 7. Ke2 Kc7
>                                    8. Kd2 Kc6 9. Ke3
>               16   124:25     ++   1. ... h4!!
>               16-> 125:32   2.10   1. ... h4
>               17   154:20     ++   1. ... h4!!
>               17   155:59   2.50   1. ... h4 2. gxh4 Kf4 3. Kf2 e3+ 4.
>                                    Ke2 Ke4 5. Ke1 Kd3 6. Kd1 e2+ 7. Ke1
>                                    Ke3 8. h5 gxh5 9. h4 Kd3 10. b4 axb3
>               17-> 157:36   2.50   1. ... h4 2. gxh4 Kf4 3. Kf2 e3+ 4.
>                                    Ke2 Ke4 5. Ke1 Kd3 6. Kd1 e2+ 7. Ke1
>                                    Ke3 8. h5 gxh5 9. h4 Kd3 10. b4 axb3
>               18   257:03     ++   1. ... h4!!
>               18-> 272:48   2.89   1. ... h4 2. gxh4 Kf4 3. Kf2 e3+ 4.
>                                    Ke2 Ke4 5. Ke1 Kd3 6. Kd1 e2+ 7. Ke1
>                                    Ke3 8. h5 gxh5 9. h4 Kd3 10. b4 axb3
>Black(0): exit
>Black(1):
>Black(1): quit
>execution complete.



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