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Subject: Re: To Fabien Letouzey - about Toga

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 11:46:02 03/17/05

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On March 17, 2005 at 14:24:13, Thomas Gaksch wrote:

>On March 17, 2005 at 13:40:41, Andreas Guettinger wrote:
>
>>After reading your post I'm really sceptical if Toga II is that much an
>>improvement over Fruit2.
>>The differences are minimal, a lot of what your diff shows are not even real
>>differences at all.
>>Aparently a lazy eval was implemented, which could give some speed increase
>>which already would explain why Toga performs better in 5' games.
>>
>>I'm curious to see how much differene between the engines is in 40 moves in 120
>>min games.
>>
>>regards
>>andy
>
>i agree, that would be very interessting. i also have never tested it.
>and again. i have never said that toga ist stronger than fruit!!
>i only tried some minor changes and tested this changes and noticed that these
>changes seemed to increase the playing strenght a little bit.
>further test from other persons seem to confirm it.
>but i have another question. is in chess programming the quantity of changed
>code a proof of the playing strength? i also have never said that i have
>invented something new in the enhancements. it is all well known. but it seem to
>work with fruit very well
>
>please don“t discuss anymore. toga is not worth to discuss about it. i think
>everybody has his own arguments. and no argument is wrong. you can see it from
>to sides.

Actually, I think this sort of thing (small changes that lead to apparently big
improvement) are the MOST interesting things to discuss.  It is like free beer.



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