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Subject: Re: Special Opening Book Iterface -- A request for discussion

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 10:14:18 01/31/99

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On January 31, 1999 at 00:42:27, Dann Corbit wrote:

>I am going to create a special opening book that uses the C.A.P. data.  It will
>also contain some middlegame and endgame stuff in it, but most programs will
>have little interest in that.  What I would like to know is what API would you
>like to use?  I can make it a C API or C++ objects.

I think most people would want a ANSI C api so that most any language can access
it (as per the other posters).

>  I also would like to get
>your thoughts on what the volume of information you would like back is.  I will
>have a suggested move for all positions, a best move for some positions, and an
>avoid move for a few positions.  I will have a pv -- how much of that would you
>like and in what format?  I will have a ce.

What is a ce?

>  Would you like second guesses also
>(I have tables with the same information but did not get run as long and
>occasionally the answers are different) or best answer only?  What should the
>format for the positions be?  If binary rather than character string, what
>format will convey the all the information that everyone needs?  I can possibly
>start up the inquiry data structure with various attributes depending upon the
>way it is constructed.  I will also have an interface to update the database.
>That way, it can grow in information over time.
>
>What I would like is a clear specification that would benefit the broadest
>possible range of programmers with the greatest possible utility.


Although this project is interesting, I kind of see the "end of an era" with it.
Once this data is generally available, a lot of commercial programs and quite a
few amateur programs will use it. Unlike tablebases where you are not sure if a
given game will even get to them, all programs need good openings to play well.
Hence, the direction may go that instead of attempting to put in a good opening
book, a lot of programmers will be trying to find ways to "extend the C.A.P
book" (which in and of itself will be a tough thing to do).

And those programmers who have their own opening books will find their programs
at a major disadvantage. It's kind of a shame, but I guess that is the price of
progress.

It's too bad that any opening work that I had planned will now probably go by
the wayside and I will use C.A.P., otherwise, my program will be at a major
disadvantage.

KarinsDad :(



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