Author: Kim Hvarre
Date: 17:07:30 01/31/99
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On January 31, 1999 at 10:53:57, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On January 31, 1999 at 04:40:11, Kim Hvarre wrote: > >>On January 30, 1999 at 18:15:19, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On January 30, 1999 at 11:38:49, Kim Hvarre wrote: >>>>> snp >>Let's stop here. You - of all - knows there's differences between "teams" >>(Crafty = +2300, e.g. Rebel = +2400) and the claim that the _DB-team_ is the >>very superior, that the world at the time could establish is indeed rather >>naive. >> >>regards/kim > > >your statement above is _wrong_. You are making one assumption that is way >wrong. You said 'crafty =+2300, rebel=+2400' but you forgot one important >qualifier: 'on equal hardware'. *I* don't use 'equal hardware' and I'd be >willing to let you fire up a test match with crafty on my box to show you what >I mean. Or I can run it on our 16 processor SGI machine. That's the point >here. DB's 'hardware' isn't equal. And they spent a lot of time to make it >not equal, yet everyone overlooks that work and resorts to the lame idea of >'if the micros had their hardware....' That's not exactly fair, is it, when >they spent so much time to build that speed advantage, and suddenly to compare >with them we have to strip them of that advantage? > >So they are as good _or better_ and their work on hardware has put them several >levels out in front of everyone... Once again (remember my refrasing of the poll-q?!) - regarding that matter we agree. As to strength of team - which is the basics here - You certainly have a point in the hw-business, i.e. the work of the DB-team is outstanding. Then again it was implicit in the poll-q to focus on "the if's" all included. As to the above mentioned - Crafty is at +2300 level, Rebel, MCPro, Hiarcs at +2400 = diff. in "teams" = there's a positive possibility for the fact that known programers would have done a better job than the DB-team. And regarding this, it again would be rather naive to think, that we just ended with the very superior with the DB-guys. Don't overlook the incentives of the commercial aspect, i.e. I'm certain, that also Crafty would jump up 100 points if You were bound to make a living of it! Regards/kim
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