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Subject: Re: When is a mate not a mate ? ..Eduard -> this message is about EGTB ;>)

Author: Eduard Nemeth

Date: 05:25:55 03/20/05

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On March 18, 2005 at 22:11:39, Mike Byrne wrote:

>Many engines will show this as mate-in-66 with Rxf5.  But if your engines plays
>Rxf5, it will be a drawn game under current FIDE rules.  However there are many
>shorter mates (<less than 50 moves) that begin with Kd6 .
>
>[d]5k2/3K4/8/R4b2/1R6/8/3B4/5r2 w - - 0 1
>
>Best,
>
>Michael


All Engines with 5-6 pices TBs will plays this bad line with a 50 Rules draw:

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.03.20"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "5k2/3K4/8/R4b2/1R6/8/3B4/5r2 w - -"]

1. Rxf5+ Rxf5 2. Ke6 Rc5 3. Rf4+ Kg8 4. Rg4+ Kh7 5. Bf4 Rb5
6. Be3 Rb1 7. Kf7 Rb7+ 8. Kf6 Rb3 9. Rg7+ Kh8 10. Re7 Rc3
11. Bf4 Rc6+ 12. Kf7 Ra6 13. Be3 Rc6 14. Ra7 Kh7 15. Rd7
Rc8 16. Bg5 Rb8 17. Rd1 Rb7+ 18. Be7 Rb6 19. Bd6 Rb7+
20. Kf6 Rb3 21. Rh1+ Kg8 22. Rg1+ Kh7 23. Rg7+ Kh8 24. Rd7
Rb2 25. Bc5 Rc2 26. Rd5 Rc3 27. Bd6 Rc1 28. Rh5+ Kg8
29. Be5 Rb1 30. Rg5+ Kh7 31. Rg7+ Kh8 32. Ra7 Rb6+ 33. Kf7+
Kh7 34. Bf4 Rb4 35. Kf6+ Kh8 36. Ra8+ Kh7 37. Be5 Rb1
38. Ra7+ Kg8 39. Bd4 Rf1+ 40. Ke6 Rf7 41. Ra1 Rf8 42. Rh1
Re8+ 43. Kf6 Re2 44. Rg1+ Kf8 45. Be5 Ke8 46. Ke6 Rf2
47. Rh1 Rf7 48. Rh8+ Rf8 49. Rh7 Rf2 50. Ra7 Rd2 *

And draw!

But, after Kd6, yes, I seems that white can wins with a 50 Rules line.

But Computers plays another. No Human will here Play Rxf5?! I am sure.

Best,
Eduard



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