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Subject: Re: "Draw" by agreement

Author: Madhavan

Date: 04:21:46 03/23/05

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On March 23, 2005 at 07:13:48, Norm Pollock wrote:

>On March 22, 2005 at 21:16:34, Peter Stayne wrote:
>
>>That's actually one of the main reasons I enjoy computer chess tournies a slight
>>bit more than human chess tournies. This is one of the few aspects of human
>>chess play that I hope programmers steer clear of. The only area I wish programs
>>today were better at in terms of offering draws is the awareness of the 'no
>>future progress' draws that are currently hampered by the horizon effect.
>>
>>I like that programs aren't afraid, win or lose, of unclear/possibly dangerous
>>positions and play on until it's a clear win, loss or draw. Makes all these
>>tournies we see more dynamic and interesting. I'd hate to see these mired by a
>>Peter Leko-style engine.
>
>I agree with Peter on this issue.

But one thing you are missing here,
for testing,Computer programs should play till the end
but for tournaments,the Operator should have rights to offer or claim draws on
programs behalf,he should not have rights to resign on programs behalf.





>Computers are better than humans in avoiding draws that should be played out.
>That is good, why ruin that.
>
>There is one area where computers and humans have the same problem. That is,
>either way, white scores about 56% and black scores about 44%. A lot has to do
>with humans playing black all too willing to accept a draw. But yet this
>statistical breakdown holds up with computers as far as I can tell.
>
>Maybe computer programmers should use different techniques when playing the
>black pieces? Like using extra time for the first 5 moves after coming out of
>the opening. Maybe that way they can equalize better.



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