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Subject: Re: Guys it is a Tactical Sacrifice

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 15:23:34 03/25/05

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On March 25, 2005 at 18:07:31, George Tsavdaris wrote:

>On March 25, 2005 at 17:53:54, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On March 25, 2005 at 17:50:23, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>On March 25, 2005 at 17:44:02, Steve Maughan wrote:
>>>
>>>>Terry,
>>>>
>>>>>Shredder saw this move earlier, and played quickly. It's not a positinal
>>>>>sacrifice.
>>>>
>>>>Paste the EPD into Shredder 9 and it will find Nf5 after only a couple of
>>>>seconds i.e. it sees this move quickly without using previous search knowledge.
>>>>
>>>>How do you define a "Tactical Sacrifice" and a "Positional Sacrifice"?
>>>>
>>>>Steve
>>>
>>>A tactical sacrifice leads to a gain in material and Nf5 does....a positional
>>>sacrifice gives compensation for material, space and mobility, which will
>>>eventually lead to material returned, etc.
>>>
>>>Terry
>>
>>If S9 does this in 2 seconds with out seeing a return in material, then it may
>>be a considered a blunder. The difference is this "blunder" wins!:)
>
> No! Perhaps SMK programmed it to play not only moves that lead to material
>advantage, but that lead to positional advantage too. How do you know it is not
>designed like this........?
> It seems odd that a computer plays without seing a material advantage, but
>perhaps this is an example that they do......

Many programs find Nf5 quickly, then drop it and then when the see material gain
switch back to Nf5.

I think S9 did this but played the move quiclkly..it may have found material
gain in 2 sec. or it moved too fast...it may be related to code that looks at
material compensation, or it may not be. You would need to discuss this SMK.

To me, I see material gain, I see a common tactic employed. I have used this
theme for 20 years.

Terry



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