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Subject: Re: How long to see black is winning + crafty bench

Author: Andreas Guettinger

Date: 17:13:04 03/26/05

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On March 26, 2005 at 14:20:18, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>On March 26, 2005 at 14:14:00, Kim Roper Jensen wrote:
>
>
>>Hmm what about 3. .. hxg3+ 4. Kxg3 f4+
>>
>>[D] 8/1pk5/8/2Pp2p1/P2P1p2/6KP/8/8 w - - 0 5
>>
>>How does the drawing line look ?
>
>With bitbases (some sort of TBs) I get:
>
>  12721363  14.062   0.00 14t  5.Kg4 b6 6.h4 gxh4 7.cxb6+ Kxb6 8.Kxh4 f3 9.a5+
>                               Ka6 10.Kg3 Kb5 11.Kxf3 {INTREC} {80}
>
>But the line might be not so logical for a human, because any draw line will be
>the same for the engine, wether the opponent has to fight for it, or myself.
>Perhaps the line without any TBs shows more:
>
>  33454089  33.828  -0.10 15.  5.Kg4 b6 6.h4 gxh4 7.cxb6+ Kxb6 8.Kxh4 Ka5
>                               9.Kg4 Kxa4 10.Kxf4 Kb4 11.Kf3 Kc3 12.Ke2 Kxd4
>                               13.Kd2 Ke4 14.Ke2 d4 15.Kd2 d3 16.Kd1 Ke3
>                               17.Ke1 Kd4 18.Kd1 Kc5 19.Kd2 Kc4 20.Kd1 Kd4
>                               {-80}
>
>Regards,
>Dieter


Crafty with 5-men TBs sees the draw immediately:

hash table memory =   96M bytes.
pawn hash table memory =   12M bytes.
EGTB access enabled
using tbpath=./TB
5 piece tablebase files found
13986kb of RAM used for TB indices and decompression tables

Crafty v19.19

White(1): setboard 8/1pk5/8/2Pp2p1/P2P1p2/6KP/8/8 w - - 0 5
White(1): analyze
Analyze Mode: type "exit" to terminate.
              clearing hash tables
              time surplus   0.00  time limit 22.50 (3:30)
              depth   time  score   variation (1)
               11     0.20  -0.72   1. Kg4 Kd7 2. a5 Kd8 3. h4 f3 4. Kxf3
                                    gxh4 5. Kg4 Ke7 6. Kxh4
               11->   0.23  -0.72   1. Kg4 Kd7 2. a5 Kd8 3. h4 f3 4. Kxf3
                                    gxh4 5. Kg4 Ke7 6. Kxh4
               12     0.58  -0.50   1. Kg4 Kd7 2. a5 Kd8 3. c6 Kc7 4. cxb7
                                    Kxb7 5. h4 f3 6. Kxf3 gxh4 7. Kg4 Ka6
                                    8. Kxh4 Kxa5
               12->   0.66  -0.50   1. Kg4 Kd7 2. a5 Kd8 3. c6 Kc7 4. cxb7
                                    Kxb7 5. h4 f3 6. Kxf3 gxh4 7. Kg4 Ka6
                                    8. Kxh4 Kxa5
               13     0.82  -0.60   1. Kg4 Kd7 2. a5 Kd8 3. Kf3 Kc7 4.
                                    Kf2 Kb8 5. Ke2 Ka7 6. c6 bxc6 7. Kf3
               13->   1.06  -0.60   1. Kg4 Kd7 2. a5 Kd8 3. Kf3 Kc7 4.
                                    Kf2 Kb8 5. Ke2 Ka7 6. c6 bxc6 7. Kf3
               14     1.26     +1   1. Kg4!!
               14     1.58   0.01   1. Kg4 b6 2. h4 gxh4 3. cxb6+ Kxb6
                                    4. Kxh4 f3 5. Kg3 f2 6. Kxf2 <EGTB>
               14->   1.62   0.01   1. Kg4 b6 2. h4 gxh4 3. cxb6+ Kxb6
                                    4. Kxh4 f3 5. Kg3 f2 6. Kxf2 <EGTB>
               15     2.30   0.01   1. Kg4 b6 2. h4 gxh4 3. cxb6+ Kxb6
                                    4. Kxh4 f3 5. Kg3 f2 6. Kxf2 <EGTB>
               15->   2.40   0.01   1. Kg4 b6 2. h4 gxh4 3. cxb6+ Kxb6
                                    4. Kxh4 f3 5. Kg3 f2 6. Kxf2 <EGTB>
               16     3.11   0.01   1. Kg4 b6 2. h4 gxh4 3. cxb6+ Kxb6
                                    4. Kxh4 f3 5. Kg3 f2 6. Kxf2 <EGTB>
               16->   3.20   0.01   1. Kg4 b6 2. h4 gxh4 3. cxb6+ Kxb6
                                    4. Kxh4 f3 5. Kg3 f2 6. Kxf2 <EGTB>
               17     4.73   0.01   1. Kg4 b6 2. h4 gxh4 3. cxb6+ Kxb6
                                    4. Kxh4 f3 5. Kg3 f2 6. Kxf2 <EGTB>
               17->   4.94   0.01   1. Kg4 b6 2. h4 gxh4 3. cxb6+ Kxb6
                                    4. Kxh4 f3 5. Kg3 f2 6. Kxf2 <EGTB>
               18     7.26   0.01   1. Kg4 b6 2. h4 gxh4 3. cxb6+ Kxb6
                                    4. Kxh4 f3 5. Kg3 f2 6. Kxf2 <EGTB>
               18->   7.56   0.01   1. Kg4 b6 2. h4 gxh4 3. cxb6+ Kxb6
                                    4. Kxh4 f3 5. Kg3 f2 6. Kxf2 <EGTB>
               19    10.68   0.01   1. Kg4 b6 2. h4 gxh4 3. cxb6+ Kxb6
                                    4. Kxh4 f3 5. Kg3 f2 6. Kxf2 <EGTB>
               19->  11.20   0.01   1. Kg4 b6 2. h4 gxh4 3. cxb6+ Kxb6
                                    4. Kxh4 f3 5. Kg3 f2 6. Kxf2 <EGTB>
               20    17.54   0.01   1. Kg4 b6 2. h4 gxh4 3. cxb6+ Kxb6
                                    4. Kxh4 f3 5. Kg3 f2 6. Kxf2 <EGTB>
               20->  19.62   0.01   1. Kg4 b6 2. h4 gxh4 3. cxb6+ Kxb6
                                    4. Kxh4 f3 5. Kg3 f2 6. Kxf2 <EGTB>
               21    29.75   0.01   1. Kg4 b6 2. h4 gxh4 3. cxb6+ Kxb6
                                    4. Kxh4 f3 5. Kg3 f2 6. Kxf2 <EGTB>
               21->  32.49   0.01   1. Kg4 b6 2. h4 gxh4 3. cxb6+ Kxb6
                                    4. Kxh4 f3 5. Kg3 f2 6. Kxf2 <EGTB>

regards
- Andy





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