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Subject: Re: only e8=N!! wins here Question

Author: chandler yergin

Date: 07:57:08 03/27/05

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On March 27, 2005 at 10:54:08, F. Huber wrote:

>On March 27, 2005 at 10:04:45, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>
>>On March 27, 2005 at 09:30:30, chandler yergin wrote:
>>
>>>On March 27, 2005 at 07:43:03, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 27, 2005 at 07:36:42, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 26, 2005 at 18:18:50, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>source: Selective Search magazine
>>>>>>
>>>>>>White(2): [d]8/p3P3/rp6/kp6/1p4PK/1P6/1P5p/4r2R w - - 0 1
>>>>>>White(1): st 120
>>>>>>search time set to 120.00.
>>>>>>White(1): g
>>>>>>              clearing hash tables
>>>>>>              time surplus  59.67  time limit 2:00 (2:00) [easy move]
>>>>>>              depth   time  score   variation (1)
>>>>>>starting thread 1
>>>>>>               14->   0.08   0.01   1. Rxe1 h1=Q+ 2. Rxh1 (s=2)
>>>>>>               15     0.08   0.01   1. Rxe1 h1=Q+ 2. Rxh1
>>>>>>               15->   0.09   0.01   1. Rxe1 h1=Q+ 2. Rxh1 (s=3)
>>>>>>               16     0.11   0.01   1. Rxe1 h1=Q+ 2. Rxh1 (s=2)
>>>>>>               16->   0.17   0.01   1. Rxe1 h1=Q+ 2. Rxh1 (s=3)
>>>>>>               17     0.17   0.01   1. Rxe1 h1=Q+ 2. Rxh1 (s=2)
>>>>>>               17->   0.22   0.01   1. Rxe1 h1=Q+ 2. Rxh1 (s=3)
>>>>>>               18     0.23   0.01   1. Rxe1 h1=Q+ 2. Rxh1 (s=2)
>>>>>>               18->   0.30   0.01   1. Rxe1 h1=Q+ 2. Rxh1 (s=2)
>>>>>>               19     0.36   0.01   1. Rxe1 h1=Q+ 2. Rxh1
>>>>>>               19->   2.11   0.01   1. Rxe1 h1=Q+ 2. Rxh1 (s=3)
>>>>>>               20     2.17   0.01   1. Rxe1 h1=Q+ 2. Rxh1 (s=2)
>>>>>>               20->  21.17   0.01   1. Rxe1 h1=Q+ 2. Rxh1 (s=3)
>>>>>>               21    21.31   0.01   1. Rxe1 h1=Q+ 2. Rxh1 (s=2)
>>>>>>               21    25.97     +1   1. e8=N!!
>>>>>>               21     1:25   1.33   1. e8=N Rg1 2. Kh5 Rc1 3. g5 Rg1 4.
>>>>>>                                    Kh6 Rf1 5. g6 Rg1 6. Kh7 Rc1 7. g7
>>>>>>                                    Rg1 8. Kh8 Rc1 9. g8=Q Rg1 10. Qg3
>>>>>>                                    Rxh1 11. Nc7 Rd1 12. Qxh2
>>>>>>               21->   1:25   1.33   1. e8=N Rg1 2. Kh5 Rc1 3. g5 Rg1 4.
>>>>>>                                    Kh6 Rf1 5. g6 Rg1 6. Kh7 Rc1 7. g7
>>>>>>                                    Rg1 8. Kh8 Rc1 9. g8=Q Rg1 10. Qg3
>>>>>>                                    Rxh1 11. Nc7 Rd1 12. Qxh2
>>>>>>               22     1:45     +1   1. e8=N!!
>>>>>>              time=2:00  cpu=357684%  mat=-6  n=417517453  fh=89%  nps=3.48M
>>>>>>              ext-> chk=24204251 cap=581186 pp=2733634 1rep=657615 mate=89868
>>>>>>              predicted=2  nodes=417517453  evals=224117562  50move=0
>>>>>>              endgame tablebase-> probes=0  hits=0
>>>>>>              SMP->  split=2723  stop=373  data=10/64  cpu=715823:17  elap=2:00
>>>>>>
>>>>>>White(1): e8=N
>>>>>>              time used:   2:00
>>>>>>Black(1):
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry it's a DRAW!
>>>>>[Event "?"]
>>>>>[Site "?"]
>>>>>[Date "????.??.??"]
>>>>>[Round "?"]
>>>>>[White "New game"]
>>>>>[Black "?"]
>>>>>[Result "*"]
>>>>>[SetUp "1"]
>>>>>[FEN "[D]8/p3P3/rp6/kp6/1p4PK/1P6/1P5p/4r2R w - - 0 1"]
>>>>>[PlyCount "3"]
>>>>>
>>>>>{Shredder 8: 1)} 1. Rxe1 ({Shredder 8: 2)} 1. e8=N Rg1 2. Nd6 Rxg4+ 3. Kxg4 {
>>>>>[%eval 0,17]}) 1... h1=Q+ 2. Rxh1 {[%eval 0,17]} *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>2.Nd6 is a mistake, the winning line is above : 1. e8=N! Rg1 2. Kh5! Rc1 3. g5!
>>>>Rg1 4.Kh6! Rf1 5. g6! Rg1 6. Kh7! Rc1 7. g7! Rg1 8. Kh8! Rc1 9. g8=Q! Rg1 10.
>>>>Qg3 Rxh1 11. Nc7 Rd1 12. Qxh2
>>>
>>>I notice that the line you give of course has a 'high' evaluation
>>>as winning; but you didn't take the Line to Mate!
>>>
>>>I know you respect Fritz & Shredder analysis,,
>>>Right now I have Shredder running and at 26 Ply, so far it hasn't found a Mate.
>>>
>>>I'll keep it runnning, but would apprecite it, if you have found a Mate
>>>to please Post it, & save me some time.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Chan
>>
>>
>>Ok, here's the whole line :
>>
>>[Event "?"]
>>[Site "?"]
>>[Date "????.??.??"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "e8=N!!"]
>>[Black "?"]
>>[Result "*"]
>>[SetUp "1"]
>>[FEN "8/p3P3/rp6/kp6/1p4PK/1P6/1P5p/4r2R w - - 0 1"]
>>[PlyCount "31"]
>>
>>1. e8=N Rg1 2. Kh5 Rd1 3. g5 Rg1 4. Kh6 Rd1 5. g6 Rg1 6. Kh7 Rf1 7. g7 Rg1 8.
>>Kh8 Rc1 9. g8=Q Rg1 10. Qg7 Re1 11. Kh7 Rg1 12. Qg6 Re1 13. Kh6 Rg1 14. Qg5 Rf1
>>15. Kh5 Rg1 16. Qg3 *
>>
>>Now, white king will go shelter on g2 and white have 2 mate threat N->d6->b7
>>mate and R->a1 mate
>
>Here“s a complete line showing a forced #21:
>
>ChestUCI Ver.4.0:
>CPU: Celeron 400MHz
>FEN: 8/p3P3/rp6/kp6/1p4PK/1P6/1P5p/4r2R w - -
>Parameters found in Database !
>Search for Special-Mate [C0/R-4/K1/P1/X14] in 21 ...  (Hash=48MB)
>  21	00:15	     601.388	52.892	+M21	1.e8S
>Search completed ...  (Time=14.39s)
>Mate in 21 found !  (00:14)
>1.e8N Rg1 2.Kh5 Rf1 3.g5 Rg1 4.Kh6 Rf1 5.g6 Rg1 6.Kh7 Rf1 7.g7 Rg1 8.Kh8 Rf1
>9.g8Q Rg1 10.Qg7 Rf1 11.Kh7 Rg1 12.Qg6 Rf1 13.Kh6 Rg1 14.Qg5 Rf1 15.Kh5 Rg1
>16.Qg3 Rf1 17.Kh4 Re1 18.Nd6 Re4+ 19.Kh3 Rh4+ 20.Kg2 Rg4 21.Nb7#
>1 Solution  (Mate in 21)
>
>Regards,
>Franz.

EXCELLENT! WOW!
Great Program!

Thanks!



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