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Subject: Re: This Opening book of Harry is very interesting !

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 05:41:58 03/29/05

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On March 28, 2005 at 21:56:39, Arturo Ochoa wrote:

>On March 28, 2005 at 11:54:35, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>87, FQ
>>
>>Harry Schnapp released today a new version from his very popular Arena Mainbook.
>>
>> Arena Mainbook (detail page, in English and German available)
>>
>>This opening book isn't from a PGN file. Harry Schnapp enter each variation in
>>his book by hand. He is working over one year on this opening book. Harry try to
>>optimize his opening book for all available chess engines. Critical gambit
>>openings wouldn't add. This opening book is really a sensation. Shredder 9.0
>>produced on my PCs fantastic results with the book from Harry. If I compare the
>>results with the opening book by Sandro Necchi, the book by Harry produce an
>>higher Shredder performance (around 20 ELO). I will not say the book by Sandro
>>isn't good but many variants Shredder like are deactivated.
>>
>>Example:
>>ATL-2 results: Shredder is playing with Mainbook 4.5 by Harry Schnapp:
>>
>>Rating 1: All games from ATL-2 Systems 1 - 3 = 1460 games!
>>March 26th, 2005 (21:00 MEZ)
>>
>>    Program                          Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.
>>Draws
>>
>>  1 Shredder 9.0                   : 2750   29  29   420    71.9 %   2587   31.4
>>%
>>  2 Gandalf 6.01                   : 2645   28  27   420    56.2 %   2602   32.4
>>%
>>  3 TheKing 3.33 Schumacher        : 2621   28  28   400    51.7 %   2609   31.0
>>%
>>  4 Ruffian 2.1.0                  : 2606   29  29   380    48.6 %   2616   30.8
>>%
>>  5 ProDeo 1.1                     : 2605   29  29   380    48.4 %   2616   31.6
>>%
>>  6 SlowChess Blitz WV             : 2560   31  31   360    40.4 %   2628   28.1
>>%
>>  7 SOS 5.1 for Arena              : 2547   30  30   360    38.2 %   2630   32.5
>>%
>>  8 Spike 0.9                      : 2530   40  41   200    31.8 %   2663   33.5
>>%
>>After 420 games the advantage to Gandalf 6.01 = 105 ELO !!
>>This games are produced with 40 moves in 20 minutes (still running ATL-2
>>tourney).
>>
>> ATL League (more information, games, log files and so on)
>>
>>On my secret ATL-2a tournament (Athlon 2.8, Centrino 1.6) with Shredder Classic
>>GUI the different from Shredder 9.0 to Gandalf 6.01 is 82 ELO. After 340 games
>>for each engine with the same time control 40 moves in 20 minutes. Shredder is
>>playing with the opening book by Sandro Necchi. I will public this tournament
>>later. Perhaps I produce other results in tournaments with Fritz, Hiarcs, Tiger
>>and Junior and perhaps the opening book by Sandro is tuned against this group of
>>engines. Or simply, around 400 games are not enough.
>>
>>FACT is:
>
>?!
>
>>The opening book by Harry Schnapp is really a sensation and one of the best
>>available opening books today!
>
>?!!?????
>
>Jorge PicachĂș returned to the Forum with new.....
>
>I have checked the "sensational Harry Schnapp's Book". The book is
>1.780.651 moves, depth = 63 plies according to the site. Previous version was
>1.552.937 moves, depth = 63 plies.
>
>1) Considering some limitations and known bugs of the Arena Gui to correct the
>moves what makes difficult to introduce moves quickly with correct priorities.
>2) Considering the significant difference in the number of moves and the short
>time between releases.
>3) Considering the book has saved statistics about games and the results come
>from pgn files with real games.
>4) Considering that if we continue checking only the first moves have
>priorities. Example, after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6, we find all thh
>moves with the default priority of assigned by Arena = 5.
>
>Where do your facts come from? From the same ..... site where you have returned.
>
>>
>>Update text by Harry Schnapp in German language:
>
>Will you be able to post something that it is really useful to read?
>
>Just Jorge PicachĂș in action... ;)
>
>AO.

Thanks for your deep observation Arturo Octavo :-)

Jorge



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