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Subject: Re: one from the archives ...

Author: chandler yergin

Date: 14:55:12 03/30/05

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On March 30, 2005 at 13:58:12, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On March 30, 2005 at 04:35:41, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>
>>On March 29, 2005 at 23:37:20, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>That's a funny one, because even the lamest human can see it instantly.
>>
>>Dann, I am lamer than the lamest ...
>>I cannot see it. Also compare the following similar positions:
>>
>>[D] 1k6/8/8/8/PPP5/5p1p/8/6K1 w - -
>>
>>Here all three white pawns are advanced by two squares -> still won for black.
>>Now we only advance a and c pawns:
>>
>>[D] 1k6/8/8/8/P1P5/5p1p/1P6/6K1 w - -
>>
>>And here white wins. White also wins in the next position:
>>
>>[D] 1k6/8/8/8/5p1p/8/PPP5/6K1 w - -
>>
>>And a serious question: how to see fast, which of those positions is won and
>>which is lost? Can anybody do it without deep calculation?
>
>Probably, I am just supremely overconfident at times.  The positions you posted
>seem more difficult to me, but I would *guess* they are still won.  In each case
>I would have to see if the king can stop the pawns.
>
>It is obvious that the white king is totally stuck.  You might as well nail him
>to the board.
>
>So, the question is, can I prevent the advance of the white pawns with a lone
>king.  Since it looks to me like I can, the white king is dead.
>
>On the other hand, there are lots of places to make a false step, so even though
>I know I can win, I also might lose it by a blunder.
>
>Now, if you split the 3rd white pawn out one square to the right, then black is
>dead.


The Black king CAN stop the White pawns..

The White must lose a move, and cannot stop the Black Pawns..



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