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Subject: Re: Tasc R30 faster than Shredder 9 on a modern PC?

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 08:27:43 03/31/05

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On March 31, 2005 at 11:00:11, F. Huber wrote:

>On March 31, 2005 at 10:09:48, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On March 31, 2005 at 09:54:46, F. Huber wrote:
>>
>>>On March 31, 2005 at 09:39:52, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>      Personally, I am not at all interested in how
>>>>      fast a "normal" chess program does solve
>>>>      a chess problem with mate in X but much more
>>>>      interested in seeing the performance of an
>>>>      engine in practical chess positions (positions
>>>>      that can happen in a game). For chess problems
>>>>      we can use the special programs. And so it does
>>>>      not bother me if Shredder should need a lot of time
>>>>      to find the solution in the given position :-)
>>>>      Kurt
>>>
>>>Hello Kurt,
>>>
>>>"practical chess positions (positions that can happen in a game)"?
>>>Would you say, a position with mate in X can _not_ happen in a game?
>>>Have you really never _mated_ your opponent (or have been mated by him)?
>>>
>>>A quite strange opinion - IMO. ;-)
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Franz.
>>
>>      Hello Franz
>>      For your better understanding I should perhaps
>>      have stated "realistic" and "unrealistic"
>>      chess positions.
>>      Regards
>>      Kurt
>
>Hello Kurt,
>
>that won´t change anything - look at the #5 position in the posting at the
>start of this thread: is this "unrealistic"? Not at all IMO!
>
>And the same is true for lots of mate problems, although of course there
>exist also many mate puzzles, which are absolutely ´constructed´ and so
>(in your words) "unrealistic".
>But isn´t the _main_ goal of chess some ´mate in X´?

No, the main goal is to force resignation of your opponent.

>So almost every won (or lost) game ends up in such a ´mate in X´ -
>and that´s absolutely "realistic"! :-)
>
>Regards,
>Franz.

Kurt is absolutely right.The solution is not realistic at all.
1.Kh5 is _not_ the best move in this position in human chess, 1.Bxd5+ is.
Why?
It wins the game ímmediately since any decent chessplayer would resign in no
time in view of 1...Kxd5 2.Ne3+.

Michael



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