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Subject: Re: after forcing Rg1...

Author: Dan Ellwein

Date: 14:02:49 03/31/05

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On March 31, 2005 at 16:17:42, Mihaly Szalai wrote:

>On March 31, 2005 at 15:43:41, Dan Ellwein wrote:
>
>>On March 31, 2005 at 11:21:10, Mihaly Szalai wrote:
>>
>>>I think this is a very good engine test.
>>>Try to avoid Rh1+ (leads to a draw) and find Rg1!
>>>
>>>J. Fleck - Ch. Lutz
>>>
>>>[D]8/7r/1pp4P/8/1P1K4/7k/8/R7 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>1. Rg1! (1. Rh1+? Kg2 2. Rh5 c5+ 3. bxc5 bxc5+ 4. Ke5 Kf3 5. Kf6 Ke3=) 1... c5+
>>>(
>>>1... Kh4 2. Ke4 Rxh6 3. Ke5 c5 4. b5 c4 5. Rh1+ Kg5 6. Rxh6 Kxh6 7. Kd4+-) 2.
>>>bxc5 bxc5+ 3. Ke5 c4 4. Kf5 Kh2 5. Rg6 Rc7 6. Rg7 Rc5+ 7. Kg4 c3 8. h7 Rc4+ 9.
>>>Kg5 Rc5+ 10. Kh6 c2 11. h8=Q c1=Q+ 12. Kg6+ Kg3 13. Kf6++-
>>
>>[d]8/7r/1pp4P/8/1P1K4/7k/8/1R6 b - - 0 1
>>
>>after forcing Rg1...
>>
>>CM10_SoFar does not see the win for white....
>>
>>P8/850
>>
>>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>>0:00	1/3	0.71	948		1...Kh4 2.Rh1+ Kg5 3.b5 cxb5
>>0:00	1/3	1.46	785		1...c5+ 2.bxc5 bxc5+ 3.Kxc5 Kh4
>>					4.Rh1+ Kg5
>>0:00	1/3	0.71	948		1...Kh4 2.Rh1+ Kg5 3.b5 cxb5
>>0:00	1/3	0.00	1301		1...Kg2 2.Rb2+ Kh1 3.Rb1+ Kg2
>>0:00	1/4	-0.11	1825		1...Kg2 2.Rb2+ Kg3 3.Rb3+ Kg4 4.b5
>>					Rxh6 5.bxc6 Rxc6
>>0:00	1/4	-0.42	2865		1...Kh4 2.Rh1+ Kg5 3.Rg1+ Kxh6
>>					4.Rc1
>>0:00	1/5	0.00	4439		1...Kh4 2.Rh1+ Kg5 3.Ke5 Rxh6 4.Rxh6
>>					Kxh6 5.Kd6 c5 6.bxc5 bxc5 7.Kxc5
>>0:00	1/5	-0.46	5637		1...Kg2 2.Rb2+ Kg3 3.Rb3+ Kg4 4.Rc3
>>					Rxh6
>>0:00	2/6	-0.49	10930		1...Kg2 2.Rb2+ Kg3 3.Rb3+ Kg4 4.Rc3
>>					Rxh6 5.Ke5
>>0:00	2/7	-0.42	23538		1...Kg2 2.Rb2+ Kg3 3.Ra2 Rxh6 4.Ra6
>>					Rd6+ 5.Kc4 b5+ 6.Kc5
>>0:00	2/8	-0.15	44329		1...Kg2 2.Rb2+ Kg3 3.Ra2 Rxh6 4.Ra6
>>					c5+ 5.Kc3 cxb4+ 6.Kxb4 Rh4+ 7.Kc3
>>0:01	3/9	-0.15	76148		1...Kg2 2.Rb2+ Kg3 3.Ra2 Rxh6 4.Ra6
>>					c5+ 5.Kc3 Rc6 6.bxc5 Rxc5+ 7.Kb4
>>0:01	3/10	-0.14	160347		1...Kg2 2.Rb2+ Kg3 3.Ra2 Rxh6 4.Ra6
>>					c5+ 5.Kc3 Rc6 6.bxc5 Rxc5+ 7.Kb4
>>					Rc6
>>0:03	3/11	-0.12	365637		1...Kg2 2.Ra1 Rxh6 3.Ra6 c5+ 4.Kc3
>>					Rh3+ 5.Kb2 c4 6.Rxb6 Rb3+ 7.Kc2
>>					Kf3 8.b5
>>0:06	4/12	-0.02	664971		1...Kg2 2.Ra1 Rxh6 3.Ra6 c5+ 4.Kc3
>>					Rh3+ 5.Kc2 cxb4 6.Rxb6 Rc3+ 7.Kb2
>>					Rc4 8.Kb3 Rd4 9.Rxb4
>>0:13	5/13	-0.02	1511222		1...Kg2 2.Ra1 Rxh6 3.Ra6 c5+ 4.Kc3
>>					Rh3+ 5.Kc2 cxb4 6.Rxb6 Rc3+ 7.Kb2
>>					Rc4 8.Kb3 Rd4 9.Rxb4
>>0:31	6/14	-0.02	3657079		1...Kg2 2.Ra1 Rxh6 3.Ra6 c5+ 4.Kc3
>>					cxb4+ 5.Kxb4 Kf3 6.Kb5 Ke4 7.Rxb6
>>					Rh8 8.Kc4 Rc8+ 9.Kb3 Rc7
>>1:11	7/15	-0.01	8822534		1...Kg2 2.Ra1 Rxh6 3.Ra6 c5+ 4.Kc3
>>					cxb4+ 5.Kxb4 Kf3 6.Kb5 Ke4 7.Rxb6
>>					Rh2 8.Rc6 Rh3 9.Rc5 Kd4
>>2:42	8/16	-0.01	20715799	1...Kg2 2.Ra1 Rxh6 3.Ra6 c5+ 4.Kc3
>>					cxb4+ 5.Kxb4 Kf3 6.Kb5 Ke4 7.Rxb6
>>					Rh2 8.Rc6 Rh5+ 9.Rc5 Rh6 10.Rc4+
>>					Ke5 11.Rc5+ Kd4
>>6:07	9/17	-0.01	46332134	1...Kg2 2.Ra1 Rxh6 3.Ra6 c5+ 4.Kc3
>>					cxb4+ 5.Kxb4 Kf3 6.Kb5 Ke4 7.Rxb6
>>					Rh2 8.Rc6 Rb2+ 9.Kc4 Rc2+ 10.Kb5
>>					Ra2 11.Rc4+ Ke5 12.Rc5+ Kd4
>>14:46	10/18	-0.01	111057917	1...Kg2 2.Ra1 Rxh6 3.Ra6 c5+ 4.Kc3
>>					cxb4+ 5.Kxb4 Kf3 6.Kb5 Ke4 7.Rxb6
>>					Rh8 8.Kc5 Ke5 9.Kc4 Rd8 10.Rg6
>>					Rd2 11.Rg5+ Ke4
>>Dan
>
>After 1.Rg1 you cannot move 1...Kg2.
>
>Mihaly

you're right, Mihaly

here's the correct position...

[d]8/7r/1pp4P/8/1P1K4/7k/8/6R1 b - - 0 1

and CM10_SoFar does see white winning...

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
----	----	----	----		----
0:00	1/3	1.46	673		1...c5+ 2.bxc5 bxc5+ 3.Kxc5 Kh4
					4.Rh1+ Kg5
0:00	1/3	0.96	867		1...Kh4 2.Rg6 Kh5
0:00	1/3	0.96	867		1...Kh4 2.Rg6 Kh5
0:00	1/4	0.55	1688		1...Kh4 2.Rg6 Kh5 3.Rxc6 Rxh6 4.Rxh6+
					Kxh6
0:00	1/5	0.55	4763		1...Kh4 2.Rg6 Kh5 3.Rxc6 Rxh6 4.Rxh6+
					Kxh6
0:00	2/6	0.64	14768		1...Kh4 2.Rg6 c5+ 3.Kc4 cxb4 4.Rxb6
					Kg5
0:00	2/7	0.05	40877		1...Kh4 2.Rg6 c5+ 3.bxc5 bxc5+
					4.Kxc5 Kh5 5.Rg2 Rxh6 6.Kd4
0:00	2/8	0.04	64055		1...Kh4 2.Rg6 c5+ 3.Ke4 cxb4 4.Ke3
					Kh5 5.Rxb6 Rxh6 6.Rxb4
0:01	3/9	0.04	119050		1...Kh4 2.Rg6 c5+ 3.bxc5 bxc5+
					4.Ke5 c4 5.Kd4 Kh5 6.Rc6 Rxh6 7.Rxc4
0:02	3/10	0.07	224246		1...Kh4 2.Rg6 c5+ 3.bxc5 bxc5+
					4.Ke5 c4 5.Kf5 Kh5 6.Rg3 Rf7+ 7.Ke6
					Rc7 8.Rh3+ Kg6
0:04	3/11	0.06	445603		1...Kh4 2.Rg6 c5+ 3.bxc5 bxc5+
					4.Ke5 c4 5.Kf5 Kh5 6.Rg1 Rf7+ 7.Ke6
					Rc7 8.Rh1+ Kg6 9.Kd5
0:07	4/12	0.03	807469		1...Kh4 2.Rg6 c5+ 3.bxc5 bxc5+
					4.Ke5 c4 5.Kf5 Kh5 6.Rc6 Rxh6 7.Rxc4
					Rg6 8.Rc7 Rg5+ 9.Ke4
0:13	5/13	0.03	1560508		1...Kh4 2.Rg6 c5+ 3.bxc5 bxc5+
					4.Ke5 c4 5.Kf5 Kh5 6.Rc6 Rxh6 7.Rxc4
					Rg6 8.Rc7 Rg5+ 9.Ke4 Rg4+ 10.Ke5
0:31	6/14	0.03	3672557		1...Kh4 2.Rg6 c5+ 3.bxc5 bxc5+
					4.Ke5 c4 5.Kf5 Kh5 6.Rg3 Rf7+ 7.Ke6
					Rh7 8.Kd5 Rxh6 9.Kxc4 Rf6 10.Kd5
1:34	7/15	0.53	10941624	1...Kh4 2.Ke4 Rxh6 3.Ke5 c5 4.b5
					c4 5.Rh1+ Kg5 6.Rxh6 Kxh6 7.Kd4
					c3 8.Kxc3 Kg6 9.Kd4 Kf7 10.Kd5
					Ke8 11.Ke5
8:20	8/16	2.26	56799489	1...Kh4 2.Ke4 Kh3 3.Kf5 Kh2 4.Rg6
					c5 5.Rxb6 cxb4 6.Kg6 Rh8 7.Rxb4
					Rg8+ 8.Kf7 Rd8 9.Kg7 Kg3
16:10	8/16	1.33	108424960	1...c5+ 2.Ke4 cxb4 3.Kf5 Kh2 4.Rg6
					Rf7+ 5.Kg5 b5 6.Rb6 Rf3 7.h7 Rg3+
					8.Kh6 Rh3+ 9.Kg7 b3 10.h8=Q Rxh8
					11.Kxh8 Kg3 12.Kg7
Dan



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