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Subject: Re: ChessGenius 2.x ARM vs. ChessTiger 15.x? Anyone?

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 15:07:56 03/31/05

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On March 31, 2005 at 16:08:46, Lar Mader wrote:

>Has anyone had any experience with, or done any testing of, ChessGenius 2.x ARM
>vs. ChessTiger 15.x for the Palm.  The ChessGenius ARM program seems pretty
>strong, but I think that ChessTiger was stronger than the non-ARM version of
>ChessGenius.  Also, any guesses as to ELO (that is, SSDF relative ELO)?
>
>-= Lar

Chess genius in x-scale (if that is what you mean)  is probably stronger than
Tiger Palm.  The speed differnce would be too great for Tiger to make up.

The strongest PDA chess program currently is HIARCS running on a Palm ARM (imo).

PF2 is close, within 100 points (or closer)  and Genius Xscale is within 75 (or
closer) points of PF2.  I think it would be fair to say that Hiarcs might be 150
points or so stronger than Genius on comparble ARM hardware.

I believe this rating for Tiger on a Palm is fairly accurate (+- 50 points)

http://web.telia.com/~u85924109/ssdf/nr046.htm

Hiarcs on fast Palm ARM is probably 300-400 points or perhaps  It is almost all
due to speed of the hardware andthe program's ability to utilize the hard
effectively.  Tiger is not optimized for the ARM at all.

A fast ARM Palm with a program properly optimized could be about 40x or more
faster than  a 42 Mhz Palm Dragonball.  At the 2100 level , doubling of speed
mightbe worth 75 points (as you go up the elo scale, I believe there is a
decrease from the impact of doubling).  With a factor of 32x speed increase
(2^5), 75x5 =375 is within reason.

These are all based on using all the programs and I may be off a bit with some
of these elo differences estimates, but I'm am confident that I have identified
correctly which ones are stronger relative to each other.






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