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Subject: Re: IBM Blue ..........even faster?

Author: Peter Fendrich

Date: 13:20:41 02/02/99

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On February 02, 1999 at 15:42:02, blass uri wrote:

>
>On February 02, 1999 at 14:58:44, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>
>>On February 02, 1999 at 13:53:29, Terry Presgrove wrote:
>>
>>>IBM unveils fastest supercomputer
>>
>>This is marketing puff, IMHO.
>>
>>During these matches, it was very obvious that IBM was trying to use Deep Blue
>>to sell computers.  It is an obvious tie-in.  People use car races to sell cars,
>>after all, even though the car in the race is mechanically very dissimilar to
>>the one you'd buy from the dealer.
>>
>>After the disassembly of Deep Blue they have continued doing this.  They are
>>going to compare every new computer to the one that played against Kasparov.
>>
>>Merely mentioning that match gets a routine new product upgrade announcement
>>mentioned on the radio and in the newspaper.
>>
>>They are not going to put Deep Blue back together.  If they put it back
>>together, using a faster computer, and they lose a match, maybe their computer
>>sucks?
>
>I do not understand it.
>Do they think that we are stupid?.
>I do not think that I can learn about the ability of a computer by the result of
>a chess match.
>Genius3 on a pentium90 won kasparov 1.5:0.5 in active chess
>Genius3 on faster pentium lost later to kasparov 1.5:0.5 in active chess
>
>Does someone thinks that it proves something about the hardware?
>Does someone thinks that Pentium90 is better than the faster pentium because of
>these results?
>
>>  And if they win, they won on a slower computer already, so who cares?
>
>I care because the win was not convincing
>I am interested to see another match with better conditions for kasparov
>(He should have 48 hours between games and they should play some games before
>the match against other strong GM's)
>
>
>>
>>They aren't in this for the science or the chess or the computer chess.  No way.
>> The team almost certainly is, but they aren't the ones calling the shots.
>>
>>The public thinks that chess has been conquered by these new powerful *IBM*
>>computers.  IBM would be stupid to do anything to undermine this opinion, and
>>from a business point of view they are right to try to capitalize on it.
>
>I think that the public of intelligent no chess players is not impressed by
>winning kasparov and the public of chess players can see that deeper blue is not
>close to perfect.
>
>Do they want to impress only stupid people?
>
>Uri

It doesn't have to do with stupidity at all. It's just the way it works wether
you like it or not...
All trademarks are handled like this.
From a business point of view, it would be stupid by IBM to develop a chess
playing machine just to play chess. Of cource it is marketing - maybe some part
of it is research but I doubt it.
A third match against Kasparov would be a mistake, from a business point of
view. I wish I was wrong, but I'm sure I'm not... :-)
IMHO, the only way to get a new match is with a new world champion that badly
beats K.
Do we have someone in the near future? I'm afraid not...

//Peter










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