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Subject: Re: Mate in about 20 Moves.....?

Author: John Merlino

Date: 11:55:27 04/03/05

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On April 02, 2005 at 19:49:15, Rob Basham wrote:

>[D]rr2q1k1/2pb2p1/3p1pP1/ppnPp3/2P1P1P1/7R/PP4BP/4QRK1 w - - 0 1
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>Mate in about 20....?
>
>1 Rh8+....!
>
>Some programs find this, even though it does not seem to be a forced mate...
>
>rob

CMX Yoda v25 finds Rh8+ in two seconds on a P4-2.4:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/4	-4.12	10512		1.cxb5 Bxg4 2.Rg3 Qxg6
0:00	1/4	-2.94	20821		1.Rh8+ Kxh8 2.Qh4+ Kg8 3.Qh7+ Kf8
					4.Rxf6+ gxf6 5.g7+ Ke7 6.g8=Q+
					Kd8 7.Qxe8+ Bxe8
0:00	1/4	-2.48	21770		1.Rxf6 gxf6 2.Qh4 Qxg6 3.Qh8+ Kf7
					4.Rh7+ Qxh7 5.Qxh7+ Kf8
0:00	1/5	-2.52	23579		1.Rxf6 gxf6 2.Qh4 Qxg6 3.Qh8+ Kf7
					4.Rh7+ Qxh7 5.Qxh7+ Kf8 6.cxb5 Rxb5
0:00	1/6	-1.49	45633		1.Rxf6 gxf6 2.Qh4 Qxg6 3.Qh8+ Kf7
					4.Rh7+ Qxh7 5.Qxh7+ Kf8 6.Qh8+
					Ke7 7.Qg7+ Kd8 8.Qxf6+ Kc8
0:00	1/7	-1.49	86649		1.Rxf6 gxf6 2.Qh4 Qxg6 3.Qh8+ Kf7
					4.Rh7+ Qxh7 5.Qxh7+ Kf8 6.Qh8+
					Ke7 7.Qg7+ Kd8 8.Qxf6+ Kc8
0:01	1/8	-1.58	193560		1.Rxf6 gxf6 2.Qh4 Qxg6 3.Qh8+ Kf7
					4.Rh7+ Qxh7 5.Qxh7+ Kf8 6.Qh8+
					Ke7 7.Qg7+ Kd8 8.Qh8+ Be8 9.Qxf6+
					Kc8
0:02	1/8	0.25	498847		1.Rh8+ Kxh8 2.Qh4+ Kg8 3.Qh7+ Kf8
					4.g5 Nxe4 5.Bxe4 Bf5 6.Qh8+ Ke7
					7.Qxg7+ Kd8 8.Qxf6+ Qe7 9.Bxf5 bxc4
0:03	1/9	1.62	828719		1.Rh8+ Kxh8 2.Qh4+ Kg8 3.Qh7+ Kf8
					4.g5 Nxe4 5.Bxe4 f5 6.Bxf5 Be6
					7.Bxe6+ Ke7 8.Qxg7+ Kd8 9.Qf6+ Qe7
0:06	1/10	2.14	1554118		1.Rh8+ Kxh8 2.Qh4+ Kg8 3.Qh7+ Kf8
					4.g5 Nxe4 5.Bxe4 f5 6.Bxf5 Ke7
					7.Qxg7+ Kd8 8.Bxd7 Qe7 9.Qxe7+
					Kxe7 10.Rf7+ Kd8 11.Bxb5
0:19	1/11	3.13	4235520		1.Rh8+ Kxh8 2.Qh4+ Kg8 3.Qh7+ Kf8
					4.g5 f5 5.exf5 Ke7 6.f6+ Kd8 7.fxg7
					Kc8 8.g8=Q Qxg8 9.Qxg8+ Kb7 10.Qf7
					bxc4 11.h4
0:54	2/12	3.81	13498929	1.Rh8+ Kxh8 2.Qh4+ Kg8 3.Qh7+ Kf8
					4.g5 f5 5.exf5 Ke7 6.f6+ Kd8 7.Qxg7
					Kc8 8.f7 Qd8 9.f8=Q Kb7 10.Qxd8
					Rxd8 11.cxb5 Bxb5

Finding a forced mate is going to be very difficult, because after 1.Rh8+ Kxh8
2.Qh4+ Kg8 3.Qh7+ Kf8 4.g5, Black has at least two options that don't lead to a
quick mate -- 4...f5 and 4...Ke7.

[D]rr2qk2/2pb2pQ/3p1pP1/ppnPp1P1/2P1P3/8/PP4BP/5RK1 b - - 0 4

Finding a mate from here is not easy....

jm




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