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Subject: Re: Finally Which one is better Shredder9 or Junior9 ?

Author: Telmo C. Escobar

Date: 15:33:34 04/04/05

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On April 04, 2005 at 07:10:10, Vikrant Malvankar wrote:

>Considerable time has passed since the release of both Junior9 and Shredder9 and
>i want some opinions since i am planning to buy one of the two programs from
>chessbase.
>
>1) Which is the better of the two in terms of analysis output. I heard about
>Junior's emphasis on interesting moves in dynamic positions. is it true that
>Junior is a better engine for analysis purpose than Shredder9?
>
>2) Which is the better of the two engines in terms of pure playing quality ? or
>is it that they are both very close? Which one is more towards perfection?
>

 I don't have any of them already, but judging from former versions and common
sense I'd think like this:

 any of them is excellent and you will be happy with one of these giants. You'll
be hard time playing any of them. Concerning what is stronger, the question
maybe is not to receive a definitive answer, because each engine could be a bit
better than the other in some kind of positions. One reason to buy Shredder: it
has won most of the recent top engine tournaments. One reason to buy Junior:
Amir Ban has been posting here more often than Shredder's creator, so you'll
more chances to have some of your messages  about the engine answered by the
author himself.

 Concerning using engines for analysis: I bet no one is better than the other.
Quality of analysis depends mainly upon the user. Analysis get better results
when you're able to insert valuable moves for the engine to calculate, and that
depends upon your own cleverness, hard work and chess habilities.  If you're
smart enough, you'll get terrific analytical results from Junior or Shredder
cause both are so good. If you're not smart enough, you're often get less
valuable results because you're not so good.

 If you're a fan of any of them, buy that one and be happy.

 Just my 1/2 cent  :)

  Telmo







>3) Does new versions(latest copies) of Junior9 from Chessbase contain the bug
>that was discussed here?
>
>4) Is it true that Shredder is not a good engine playing against Humans?
>
>Regards
>
>Vikrant



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