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Subject: Re: Finally Which one is better Shredder9 or Junior9 ?

Author: Vikrant Malvankar

Date: 21:56:19 04/04/05

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On April 04, 2005 at 18:33:34, Telmo C. Escobar wrote:

>On April 04, 2005 at 07:10:10, Vikrant Malvankar wrote:
>
>>Considerable time has passed since the release of both Junior9 and Shredder9 and
>>i want some opinions since i am planning to buy one of the two programs from
>>chessbase.
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>>1) Which is the better of the two in terms of analysis output. I heard about
>>Junior's emphasis on interesting moves in dynamic positions. is it true that
>>Junior is a better engine for analysis purpose than Shredder9?
>>
>>2) Which is the better of the two engines in terms of pure playing quality ? or
>>is it that they are both very close? Which one is more towards perfection?
>>
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> I don't have any of them already, but judging from former versions and common
>sense I'd think like this:
>
> any of them is excellent and you will be happy with one of these giants. You'll
>be hard time playing any of them. Concerning what is stronger, the question
>maybe is not to receive a definitive answer, because each engine could be a bit
>better than the other in some kind of positions. One reason to buy Shredder: it
>has won most of the recent top engine tournaments. One reason to buy Junior:
>Amir Ban has been posting here more often than Shredder's creator, so you'll
>more chances to have some of your messages  about the engine answered by the
>author himself.
>
> Concerning using engines for analysis: I bet no one is better than the other.
>Quality of analysis depends mainly upon the user. Analysis get better results
>when you're able to insert valuable moves for the engine to calculate, and that
>depends upon your own cleverness, hard work and chess habilities.  If you're
>smart enough, you'll get terrific analytical results from Junior or Shredder
>cause both are so good. If you're not smart enough, you're often get less
>valuable results because you're not so good.
>
> If you're a fan of any of them, buy that one and be happy.
>
> Just my 1/2 cent  :)
>
>  Telmo

Thank you very much
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>>3) Does new versions(latest copies) of Junior9 from Chessbase contain the bug
>>that was discussed here?
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>>4) Is it true that Shredder is not a good engine playing against Humans?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Vikrant



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