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Subject: Re: Finally Which one is better Shredder9 or Junior9 ?

Author: Mike Hood

Date: 05:42:26 04/05/05

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On April 04, 2005 at 07:10:10, Vikrant Malvankar wrote:

>Considerable time has passed since the release of both Junior9 and Shredder9 and
>i want some opinions since i am planning to buy one of the two programs from
>chessbase.
>
>1) Which is the better of the two in terms of analysis output. I heard about
>Junior's emphasis on interesting moves in dynamic positions. is it true that
>Junior is a better engine for analysis purpose than Shredder9?
>
>2) Which is the better of the two engines in terms of pure playing quality ? or
>is it that they are both very close? Which one is more towards perfection?
>
>3) Does new versions(latest copies) of Junior9 from Chessbase contain the bug
>that was discussed here?
>
>4) Is it true that Shredder is not a good engine playing against Humans?
>
>Regards
>
>Vikrant

Junior 9 is the strongest playing program, but it achieves its strength by
cutting corners, not doing full analyses in certain positions. My answer to
(1)is simple:

If you want the strongest chess playing program on the market, buy Junior 9.

If you want the best analysis tool on the market, buy Shredder 9.

Answering (3)... yes, Junior 9 still has the stalemate bug in positions like
KB1r4/P7/2k5/2P5/8/8/8/8 b - - 0 1

This position alone disqualifies Junior's use for analysis.



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