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Subject: Re: Fruit fly races

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 17:32:49 04/06/05

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On April 06, 2005 at 18:29:07, Steven Edwards wrote:

>From: http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/whatisai/node1.html
>
><Quote>
>Q. What about chess?
>
>A. Alexander Kronrod, a Russian AI researcher, said ``Chess is the  Drosophila
>of AI.'' He was making an analogy with geneticists'  use of that fruit fly to
>study inheritance. Playing chess requires  certain intellectual mechanisms and
>not others. Chess programs now  play at grandmaster level, but they do it with
>limited intellectual  mechanisms compared to those used by a human chess player,
> substituting large amounts of computation for understanding. Once we
>understand these mechanisms better, we can build human-level chess  programs
>that do far less computation than do present programs.
>
>Unfortunately, the competitive and commercial aspects of making  computers play
>chess have taken precedence over using chess as a  scientific domain. It is as
>if the geneticists after 1910 had  organized fruit fly races and concentrated
>their efforts on  breeding fruit flies that could win these races.
>
></Quote>

This is reply to Anthony Cozzie but I guess that his post may be deleted(inspite
of the fact that I did not complain about it because his post include personal
attack against you and not only disagreement with your opinions) so I decided to
respond to your post and not to his post.

1)There is no generally accepted theory of how humans play chess.

2)This is Anthony's theory that humans do more computations.
I see no evidence for it.

3)Humans do AB-search and when they see that an alternative is worse they do not
spend time to calculate exact value of it.

4)Steven Edwards did not claim that authors of chess engines are morons or that
all chess engines are stupidly simple but only that the authors do not try to do
things that humans do.

Uri



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