Author: pavel
Date: 04:48:18 04/07/05
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On April 06, 2005 at 19:46:56, Anthony Cozzie wrote: >First, the author of this quote is simple WRONG. The generally accepted theory >of how humans play chess is that the brain does fuzzy matching on a database of >several hundred thousand positions. The amount of computation needed to do that >is FAR greater than the amount expended by a "conventional" AB searcher, and yet >the computer plays MUCH better than the average human. The simple fact of the >matter, which you refuse to recognize, is that AB-search with reasonable >heuristics is the most efficient way to play chess with Von Neuman machines. > >Secondly, the existence of current amateur and commercial programs does nothing >to prevent you from writing whatever kind of chess playing agent you want. If >you want to experiment, no one is stopping you or him from applying to NSF for >research money and giving it a shot. The existence of "fruit fly races" - and >his fruit fly analogy is totally flawed. A better analogy would be that a >geneticist decided to make a fruit fly that could run faster than a human - does >nothing to prevent casual study of one's own fruit flies. > >But much more importantly, the fact that you do not consider current chess >programs to be interesting and prefer formal AI does not mean that you need to >consantly post about how all chess engines are stupidly simple and their authors >are morons with room temperature IQs. What elevates this from stupidity to >irony is that Symbolic on ICC is in fact an AB searcher, which means that all >you have to show for your grandiose themes is a bunch of arrogant livejournal >nonsense and a standard chess program. Once you actually get something working, >then we can talk. > >I can stand arrogant people, and I can stand stupid people, but I simply cannot >tolerate people like you who are both clueless and arrogant as hell. So why >don't you just STFU until you actually accomplish something? > >Sincerely, > >anthony One thing for sure. Steven is not the one who is being arrogant here.
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