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Subject: Re: How do chess federations calculate rating?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 16:35:34 04/11/05

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On April 11, 2005 at 19:30:59, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 11, 2005 at 18:16:40, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On April 11, 2005 at 16:08:21, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On April 11, 2005 at 14:29:04, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 11, 2005 at 13:58:03, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>As far as I know the Israeli chess federation bought in the past a program to
>>>>>calculate rating based on their database.
>>>>>
>>>>>They do not have the source of the program(but only the exe file) and today
>>>>>there is a problem because they decided to change the rules but they have no
>>>>>money to pay to the person who wrote the program so the old rules of rating are
>>>>>practically used and not the new rules.
>>>>>
>>>>>Note also that I thought in the past that it may be a good idea to let everybody
>>>>>to download a file with all the data that they have about results of games but I
>>>>>understood that it is impossible because the data is only in some excel file
>>>>>together with other details that they do not want the public to know so they
>>>>>cannot give people to download the excel file.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am interested to know how other chess federations calculate rating and if you
>>>>>have some good idea that I can suggest to the israeli federation.
>>>>>
>>>>>I thought about some ideas but I prefer to hear first from other people.
>>>>
>>>>This is how the USCF calculated ratings at one time (don't know if it is still
>>>>true):
>>>>ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/tournament_software/USCF.C
>>>>ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/tournament_software/USCF.H
>>>>I wrote this implementation and you can use it for any purpose you like.
>>>>
>>>>This is an interesting project by Royal C. Jones to calculate Elo Ratings:
>>>>ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/tournament_software/prog10.cpp
>>>>And here is his permission to use it:
>>>>ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/tournament_software/Re Your chess rating systems.txt
>>>>
>>>>Elostat is a binary to calculate Elo ratings that is popular:
>>>>http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/download/other/elostat_13.zip
>>>>
>>>>This is a very interesting project by Rémi Coulom:
>>>>http://remi.coulom.free.fr/Bayesian-Elo/
>>>>
>>>>The FICS source code has the Glicko algorithm.
>>>>ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/chess-utils/fics.1.7.4/
>>>>ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/chess-utils/FICS.DIST/
>>>>http://sourceforge.net/projects/chesssrv/
>>>>http://sourceforge.net/projects/chessd/
>>>>
>>>>Recommended reading:
>>>>http://www.ratingtheory.com/
>>>>http://www.chessmetrics.com/
>>>
>>>Thanks for all the data.
>>>
>>>If I understand the program to calculate USCF rating is free source code by you.
>>
>>Yes.
>>>I still did not look at your files.
>>>The main problem as I see is getting the data and not calculating the rating
>>>based on the relevant formula.
>>
>>You just need to read the game headers.  If there are no Elo rating tags, you
>>can set it to whatever you want.
>
>If I understand correctly it reads a pgn file.
>
>In most games that are played in tournaments in Israel no pgn is saved but only
>the results(the players write the game but nobody has the time to take the
>scoresheet of them in order to save pgn).
>
>Uri

Note also that for some reason your links do not work for me:

ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/tournament_software/USCF.C
ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/tournament_software/USCF.H

I get an error even if I try only
ftp://cap.connx.com/pub

Uri



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