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Subject: Re: How do chess federations calculate rating?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 16:38:11 04/11/05

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On April 11, 2005 at 19:35:34, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 11, 2005 at 19:30:59, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On April 11, 2005 at 18:16:40, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On April 11, 2005 at 16:08:21, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 11, 2005 at 14:29:04, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 11, 2005 at 13:58:03, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>As far as I know the Israeli chess federation bought in the past a program to
>>>>>>calculate rating based on their database.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They do not have the source of the program(but only the exe file) and today
>>>>>>there is a problem because they decided to change the rules but they have no
>>>>>>money to pay to the person who wrote the program so the old rules of rating are
>>>>>>practically used and not the new rules.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Note also that I thought in the past that it may be a good idea to let everybody
>>>>>>to download a file with all the data that they have about results of games but I
>>>>>>understood that it is impossible because the data is only in some excel file
>>>>>>together with other details that they do not want the public to know so they
>>>>>>cannot give people to download the excel file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am interested to know how other chess federations calculate rating and if you
>>>>>>have some good idea that I can suggest to the israeli federation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I thought about some ideas but I prefer to hear first from other people.
>>>>>
>>>>>This is how the USCF calculated ratings at one time (don't know if it is still
>>>>>true):
>>>>>ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/tournament_software/USCF.C
>>>>>ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/tournament_software/USCF.H
>>>>>I wrote this implementation and you can use it for any purpose you like.
>>>>>
>>>>>This is an interesting project by Royal C. Jones to calculate Elo Ratings:
>>>>>ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/tournament_software/prog10.cpp
>>>>>And here is his permission to use it:
>>>>>ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/tournament_software/Re Your chess rating systems.txt
>>>>>
>>>>>Elostat is a binary to calculate Elo ratings that is popular:
>>>>>http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/download/other/elostat_13.zip
>>>>>
>>>>>This is a very interesting project by Rémi Coulom:
>>>>>http://remi.coulom.free.fr/Bayesian-Elo/
>>>>>
>>>>>The FICS source code has the Glicko algorithm.
>>>>>ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/chess-utils/fics.1.7.4/
>>>>>ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/chess-utils/FICS.DIST/
>>>>>http://sourceforge.net/projects/chesssrv/
>>>>>http://sourceforge.net/projects/chessd/
>>>>>
>>>>>Recommended reading:
>>>>>http://www.ratingtheory.com/
>>>>>http://www.chessmetrics.com/
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for all the data.
>>>>
>>>>If I understand the program to calculate USCF rating is free source code by you.
>>>
>>>Yes.
>>>>I still did not look at your files.
>>>>The main problem as I see is getting the data and not calculating the rating
>>>>based on the relevant formula.
>>>
>>>You just need to read the game headers.  If there are no Elo rating tags, you
>>>can set it to whatever you want.
>>
>>If I understand correctly it reads a pgn file.
>>
>>In most games that are played in tournaments in Israel no pgn is saved but only
>>the results(the players write the game but nobody has the time to take the
>>scoresheet of them in order to save pgn).
>>
>>Uri
>
>Note also that for some reason your links do not work for me:
>
>ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/tournament_software/USCF.C
>ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/tournament_software/USCF.H
>
>I get an error even if I try only
>ftp://cap.connx.com/pub
>
>Uri

Try the command line ftp client or ws_ftp32



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