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Subject: Re: A Blast from the past - Feng Hsu

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 10:18:53 04/16/05

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On April 16, 2005 at 11:51:48, Mike Byrne wrote:

>On April 16, 2005 at 01:30:42, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On April 16, 2005 at 01:05:13, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>
>>>On April 15, 2005 at 22:26:12, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 15, 2005 at 20:51:07, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Five years ago , Hsu's open letter to the world regarding a possible rematch
>>>>>with Deep Blue.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.chesscenter.com/twic/feng.html
>>>>
>>>>Do you implicitly believe him?
>>>
>>>Absolutely - I have no reason not to believe him.  Hsu has a lot of credibility
>>>- more credibility than Kasparov imo.
>>
>>He's glossing over it...Kasparov would have _accepted_ a Deep Blue rematch, but
>>IBM said NO!
>
>Yes they did say NO - as in  Kasparov slander their name after IBM spent
>millions promoting and hosting this match and now he wants a rematch. As the Ray
>Charles diddy, " Hit the road Jack, don't come back no more, no more no more"
>
>IBM did the right thing - I would have killed it too if not less than 24 later
>he brings up thing hand of God scenario.  As a chess player, Kasparov has been
>the best.   And I think for the most part he is a decent human being - but he
>can act like a real horse's ass and he did here.

IBM would _never_ let Kasparov play again for one reason, they won the match!

The rest is hyperbole.
>
>
>>Oh, it's only your opinion to claim Hsu has more credibility.
>
>I have not read anything that has persuaded me that Hsu has less credibility
>than Kasparov with respect to what he written about  Deep Blue and the
>possibilities of a rematch wit Kasparov.

Hsu, no....IBM yes!
>
>>
>>No one here comes close to the GIANT known as Kasparov, including Hsu!
>
>I have to assume you mean with respect to chess - but in all other facets of
>life, Kasparov is simply human like the rest of us - and the are millions of us
>that will come to close to Kasparov and even surpass him as a human.
>
What else?
>
>>
>>Hsu's Chess Chip is a marvel of engineering, but you would need quite a few to
>>reproduce Deep Blue.
>
>I would be happy with a one chip "baby blue machine"

Kasparov wouldn't...please. And will we see this chip? Probabaly not.
>
>>
>>Hell, I read that Hsu claimed a more powerful version of Deep Blue was made, but
>>IBM trashed the program...it might have been work in progress but it was _never_
>>realized.
>>
>>If you think Kasparov would have turned down a _real_ rematch, you're
>>dreaming...and if you think IBM would give him one well what can I say?
>
>
>I have alway been consistent - IBM close the door on Kasparov within hours after
>he accused the IBM team of cheating - it is Kasparov who closed that door by his
>inane comemnts.

His comments were unwise...inane is subjective opinion, you can't imagine the
stress and shock that Kasparov recieved after Game 2.

Kasparov stayed up night and day to figure out what was going on in the match,
he was genuinely puzzled.
>
>
>>
>>The Deep Blue team were given their pink slips on the Deep Blue Project, as IBM
>>wasn't interested.
>>
>>Hell, I'm surprised Hsu was able to even obtain the rights to the new chip...but
>>he had to pay dearly for his own "Brain-Child"...IBM sucks...they are interested
>>in one thing and one thing only...Making Money!!
>
>That is what companies do - they make money.  If they do not, they do not stay
>around very long.  But it is not thing they do - they provide goods and services
>that help people live better.  Would you want to venture a guess how much IBM
>equipment is in hositpals through out the world that enable the hositpals to
>take better care of their patients.  Health care is big business - and  good
>health care enables people to live longer and more productive lives.
>
>Think of how our health care system would be if there were no companies (that
>make money) around to provide any goods or services to a hospital.  No telephone
>systems, no radios, no monitoring equipment , no hitech surgical equipment etc.
>That's how it would be if we had no companies around that make money.  The
>profit motive has been a great driver for people to invent things that improve
>the world we live in.  I would not suggest changing that...

Oh spare me, I know how things work....IBM did "Bad Science" it's that simple,
and Hsu would say the same thing as a scientist.

Believe what you want, I'm finished with this..



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