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Subject: Re: A Blast from the past - Feng Hsu

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 12:15:32 04/16/05

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On April 16, 2005 at 13:18:53, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On April 16, 2005 at 11:51:48, Mike Byrne wrote:
>
>>On April 16, 2005 at 01:30:42, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>On April 16, 2005 at 01:05:13, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 15, 2005 at 22:26:12, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 15, 2005 at 20:51:07, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Five years ago , Hsu's open letter to the world regarding a possible rematch
>>>>>>with Deep Blue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.chesscenter.com/twic/feng.html
>>>>>
>>>>>Do you implicitly believe him?
>>>>
>>>>Absolutely - I have no reason not to believe him.  Hsu has a lot of credibility
>>>>- more credibility than Kasparov imo.
>>>
>>>He's glossing over it...Kasparov would have _accepted_ a Deep Blue rematch, but
>>>IBM said NO!
>>
>>Yes they did say NO - as in  Kasparov slander their name after IBM spent
>>millions promoting and hosting this match and now he wants a rematch. As the Ray
>>Charles diddy, " Hit the road Jack, don't come back no more, no more no more"
>>
>>IBM did the right thing - I would have killed it too if not less than 24 later
>>he brings up thing hand of God scenario.  As a chess player, Kasparov has been
>>the best.   And I think for the most part he is a decent human being - but he
>>can act like a real horse's ass and he did here.
>
>IBM would _never_ let Kasparov play again for one reason, they won the match!
>
>The rest is hyperbole.

Whatver chance there was of a rematch ( and there was a possibility), his antics
following the match sealed_it_period.



>>
>>
>>>Oh, it's only your opinion to claim Hsu has more credibility.
>>
>>I have not read anything that has persuaded me that Hsu has less credibility
>>than Kasparov with respect to what he written about  Deep Blue and the
>>possibilities of a rematch wit Kasparov.
>
>Hsu, no....IBM yes!
>>
>>>
>>>No one here comes close to the GIANT known as Kasparov, including Hsu!
>>
>>I have to assume you mean with respect to chess - but in all other facets of
>>life, Kasparov is simply human like the rest of us - and the are millions of us
>>that will come to close to Kasparov and even surpass him as a human.
>>
>What else?
>>
>>>
>>>Hsu's Chess Chip is a marvel of engineering, but you would need quite a few to
>>>reproduce Deep Blue.
>>
>>I would be happy with a one chip "baby blue machine"
>
>Kasparov wouldn't...please. And will we see this chip? Probabaly not.
>>
>>>
>>>Hell, I read that Hsu claimed a more powerful version of Deep Blue was made, but
>>>IBM trashed the program...it might have been work in progress but it was _never_
>>>realized.
>>>
>>>If you think Kasparov would have turned down a _real_ rematch, you're
>>>dreaming...and if you think IBM would give him one well what can I say?
>>
>>
>>I have alway been consistent - IBM close the door on Kasparov within hours after
>>he accused the IBM team of cheating - it is Kasparov who closed that door by his
>>inane comemnts.
>
>His comments were unwise...inane is subjective opinion, you can't imagine the
>stress and shock that Kasparov recieved after Game 2.

Most opinions are subjective , including yours.

>
>Kasparov stayed up night and day to figure out what was going on in the match,
>he was genuinely puzzled.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>The Deep Blue team were given their pink slips on the Deep Blue Project, as IBM
>>>wasn't interested.
>>>
>>>Hell, I'm surprised Hsu was able to even obtain the rights to the new chip...but
>>>he had to pay dearly for his own "Brain-Child"...IBM sucks...they are interested
>>>in one thing and one thing only...Making Money!!
>>
>>That is what companies do - they make money.  If they do not, they do not stay
>>around very long.  But it is not thing they do - they provide goods and services
>>that help people live better.  Would you want to venture a guess how much IBM
>>equipment is in hositpals through out the world that enable the hositpals to
>>take better care of their patients.  Health care is big business - and  good
>>health care enables people to live longer and more productive lives.
>>
>>Think of how our health care system would be if there were no companies (that
>>make money) around to provide any goods or services to a hospital.  No telephone
>>systems, no radios, no monitoring equipment , no hitech surgical equipment etc.
>>That's how it would be if we had no companies around that make money.  The
>>profit motive has been a great driver for people to invent things that improve
>>the world we live in.  I would not suggest changing that...
>
>Oh spare me, I know how things work....IBM did "Bad Science" it's that simple,
>and Hsu would say the same thing as a scientist.
>
>Believe what you want, I'm finished with this.

I will and thank you!

Best,

Michael



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