Author: John Merlino
Date: 15:39:46 04/16/05
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On April 16, 2005 at 18:38:24, F. Huber wrote: >On April 16, 2005 at 18:22:59, John Merlino wrote: > >>On April 16, 2005 at 18:16:22, F. Huber wrote: >> >>>On April 16, 2005 at 17:28:27, John Merlino wrote: >>> >>>>On April 16, 2005 at 17:15:21, F. Huber wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 16, 2005 at 16:24:31, John Merlino wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Just for fun, I made a few tiny adjustments to the position, and came up with >>>>>>this: >>>>>> >>>>>>[D]8/8/pp1p4/6p1/2ppK1Pk/3P3P/5PP1/8 w - - 0 1 >>>>>> >>>>>>After playing around with several lines, I'm guessing that this is a Mate for >>>>>>White in no less than 20 moves. The King can't find it easily unless I push all >>>>>>the way past White's 8th move, and then it says Mate in 14. >>>>>> >>>>>>White has to spend a lot more time in this position ensuring that he wins the >>>>>>pawn race AND avoids stalemate. >>>>>> >>>>>>What does your awesome machine say? How about ChestUCI, Franz? >>>>> >>>>>"awesome"? My old Celeron/400? LOL! >>>>> >>>>>Well, I´ve tried it now (#22) with almost the same parameters as for the >>>>>original #13, but had no luck yet. :-( >>>>> >>>>>This seems to be a lot harder, and maybe the restriction K=1 (i.e. black king >>>>>can´t move at all) won´t hold any longer for _this_ position. >>>> >>>>You're correct, it will no longer hold. To avoid stalemate, White will have to >>>>play g3+, allowing Kxh3 and Kxg4. Eventually, there will only be 5-6 men on the >>>>board, so tablebases might help. >>> >>>Stalemate??? Do you want to say that in your solution mate has to capture >>>almost all black pawns, even the ones an a/b-line? >>>Then your way of solution must really be completely different than the one >>>for the original #13, and I´ve absolutely no idea how it might look like. >>>OTOH if the black king captures h3/g4-pawns, how should he be mated then - >>>at least in ´only´ 22 moves? >>> >>>Would be interesting to see your solution ... >>> >>>Franz. > >That´s really a brilliant solution, John! ;-) Sheesh, can't a guy mis-post once in a while? Good thing I'm a moderator -- I can delete this whole sub-thread! :-) jm
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