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Subject: Re: A Blast from the past - Feng Hsu

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:13:42 04/18/05

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On April 18, 2005 at 08:41:22, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>Of course - I don't know how USA Corp. does function.
>
>As I said, IBM/Hsu violated the spirit a) of the science experiment and b) of
>the ethics in chess. Hence they killed not only the relationship to their golden
>duck Kasparov but also their status in computerchess. How could you think for a
>minute that Kasparov was the loser in that show? Yes, you like so many
>Americans, you are possessed by mere numbers of the result, but as I said, chess
>has its own codex of honor. Go figure my evaluation shortly after Hsu's
>appearance on the last press conference when he answered Kasparov's speech. See
>r.g.c.c. via Google. Hsu smiled, but was extremely nervous and didn't comment on
>Kasparov as if he, Hsu, defined all the future of the show. He completely missed
>that Kasparov wasn't the one he could dog around in any thinkable manner. Now
>Kasparov's period in chess is over and Hsu out of computerchess and far away
>from the gold...   - Apart from that, I agree with everyone who's saying that
>nobody could "prove" a cheating in that show event. But the word of Kasparov has
>a certain meaning in chess, I would assume and Kasparov said that some events
>during game two were irregular and IBM didn't clarify things at the instant.
>That was it. (This still has effects on similar shows in computerchess, because
>now the players take care that even human intervention couldn't decide the
>outcome of the match. They simply play for a draw and run away with the money.)


I don't know why we keep re-hashing this.  But two key points.

1.  The cheating claim is simply false.  Why?  Because _other_ programs have
reproduced _every_ single move that Kasparov questioned.  And when I say _every_
I do mean every, from avoiding Qxb6 and playing the Be4 move (shredder 8/9 will
play this after a couple of minutes thinking or less) to other moves.

2.  The log files have been public for years, yet he keeps saying they were
never made available.  I have them on my laptop.  Others have them.  I presume
they are still available on the IBM web site although I have not looked since I
originally down-loaded them years ago...

In addition, remember that Kasparov signed the contract to play, under the
conditions that were actually used.  No one held a gun to his head.  In fact,
all they did was hold money out and he bit.  And lost.  And then started a
years-long series of complaints and excuses.  The old "a lack of planning on his
part does not constitute an emergency on IBM's part" fits pretty well.  He had
his eye on the money and let the details slide.  That's his problem, not IBM's
or anyone else's.



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