Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: A Blast from the past - Feng Hsu

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 17:41:06 04/18/05

Go up one level in this thread


thanks anyway, but you left out the science issue. of course THEN you are right
in all your points. on the other hand you are way too fixated on Kasparov and
that he didn't show up with any convincing proof for cheating. also here my
point comes into play that in such an experiment you don't need that the client
does "prove" something (besides his job to play good chess), but if something
happened that disturbed the "normal" process of the match, then it's the job of
the science side to clarify things. they didn't do this, instead they left
Kasparov with his (yes, it's well possible) fantasies. but it's a fact anyway
that this spoiled Kasparov's chess and hence the whole match. well, and then you
say, this is completely uninteresting, main thing is that this way IBM / Hsu won
the match and that is all what counted. this is exactly where we disagree. we
should agree on this. we should also agree that in chess it is nonsense to
distract your opponent, then winning and then being happy because you won. makes
no sense and I know quite well that in case of your own program you made that
differentiation more than once. you always wanted to win by your chess, but not
through technical tricks. you even gave away a point, if only you could get your
human GM in good humor. I know, we all do know, that you never argued in favor
of the meaninglessness of details. why you cannot see the psychological side of
this match and Kasparov's confusion, that is a remarkable singularity. and that
this did influence the result is evident. of course, if you leave this aside,
you are quite right. I wished you could take a look through my eyes; then you
could realise the motivation that leads you to think the way you do. is it
friendship or loyality to the team members? is it the conviction that Kasparov
himself had his own moments in chess where he almost cheated? you should know
that all this shouldn't influence your verdict as a scientist. no?



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.