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Subject: Re: What I did. (oops, what a pity ...)

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 11:21:37 04/19/05

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On April 19, 2005 at 13:22:01, Graham Banks wrote:

>On April 19, 2005 at 02:08:43, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>Hi Graham
>>Have you ever read my comments on CM-Settings on our homepage at
>>http://www.utzingerk.com/how_to_use.htm
>>then you would have seen the following very
>>important information:
>>
>>"Furthermore we know from experience that The King is quite often
>>not implemented in the correct way and this of course leads to
>>completely wrong results of matches and unnecesary discussions
>>about a specific CM-setting. To create separate UCI-engines
>>for each CM-setting defined in the Wb2Uci.eng under [EXTRAS]
>>should be avoided at all cost."
>>
>>With such a set-up The King will not produce the same
>>moves as in its orginal GUI !!
>>
>>
>>Method 3 (do never use this one)
>>
>>[ENGINE]
>>Name=The King 3.23
>>Author=Johan de Koning
>>Filename=Wb2Uci.exe
>>
>>[OPTIONS]
>>Program=TheKing3.23.exe
>>InitString=cm_parm default\ncm_parm opk=xxx
>>HashCommand=cm_parm tts=%i004096
>>;ShowThinkingMove=true
>>;Logfile=true
>>Visible=Ponder,Hash,ShowThinkingMove,Logfile,Extras
>>
>>
>>[EXTRAS]
>>Opponents Pawn (opp)=cm_parm opp=%i|spin|100|0|4500
>>Opponents Knight (opn)=cm_parm opn=%i|spin|100|0|1500
>>Opponents Bishop (opb)=cm_parm opb=%i|spin|100|0|1500
>>Opponents Rook (opr)=cm_parm opr=%i|spin|100|0|900
>>Opponents Queen (opq)=cm_parm opq=%i|spin|100|0|498
>>Kings Pawn (myp)=cm_parm myp=%i|spin|100|0|4500
>>Kings Knight (myn)=cm_parm myn=%i|spin|100|0|1500
>>Kings Bishop (myb)=cm_parm myb=%i|spin|100|0|1500
>>Kings Rook (myr)=cm_parm myr=%i|spin|100|0|900
>>Kings Queen (myq)=cm_parm myq=%i|spin|100|0|498
>>Contempt (cfd)=cm_parm cfd=%i|spin|0|-500|500
>>Strength (sop)=cm_parm sop=%i|spin|100|0|100
>>Attack Defend (avd)=cm_parm avd=%i|spin|0|-100|100
>>Randomness (rnd)=cm_parm rnd=%i|spin|0|0|100
>>Selective Search (sel)=cm_parm sel=%i|spin|9|0|16
>>Max Depth (md)=cm_parm md=%i|spin|999|0|999
>>My Centre Control (mycc)=cm_parm mycc=%i|spin|100|0|600
>>My Mobility (mymob)=cm_parm mymob=%i|spin|100|0|600
>>My King Safety (myks)=cm_parm myks=%i|spin|100|0|600
>>My Passed Pawn (mypp)=cm_parm mypp=%i|spin|100|0|600
>>My Pawn Weakness (mypw)=cm_parm mypw=%i|spin|100|0|600
>>Opponent's Centre Control (opcc)=cm_parm opcc=%i|spin|100|0|600
>>Opponent's Mobility (opmob)=cm_parm opmob=%i|spin|100|0|600
>>Opponent's King Safety (opks)=cm_parm opks=%i|spin|100|0|600
>>Opponent's Passed Pawn (oppp)=cm_parm oppp=%i|spin|100|0|600
>>Opponent's Weakness (oppw)=cm_parm oppw=%i|spin|100|0|600
>>
>>
>>Kind regards
>>Kurt
>
>
>Hi Kurt,
>
>I disagree with you on this. I've always used this method and CM9000 has
>produced excellent results in my tournaments as shown. I would like to see some
>evidence to back up your claim!

      Hi Graham
      Please compare moves/evaluation in CM-GUI and Fritz-GUI
      of a specific setting: they are not identical if the
      paramaters are defined under [EXTRAS] and that's the
      thing I do not like. If this does not bother you, you
      may nevertheless have fun with CM-Settings. Personally,
      I always want to know what I am testing and this is
      not guaranteed the way you have implemented The King
      under Fritz-GUI. Only the methods with textfiles or the
      the method with settings (parameters) defined in the
      InitString are therefore recommanded by me. We (Manfred
      Meiler and myself) have tried to find out why this is
      so with Odd Gunnar Malin some years ago, but did not
      found out the reason of the not identical behaviour
      of the engine.
      Kind regards
      Kurt



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