Author: Jason Kent
Date: 16:26:31 04/19/05
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On April 19, 2005 at 14:54:40, Graham Banks wrote: >On April 19, 2005 at 14:21:37, Kurt Utzinger wrote: > >>On April 19, 2005 at 13:22:01, Graham Banks wrote: >> >>>On April 19, 2005 at 02:08:43, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>> >>>>Hi Graham >>>>Have you ever read my comments on CM-Settings on our homepage at >>>>http://www.utzingerk.com/how_to_use.htm >>>>then you would have seen the following very >>>>important information: >>>> >>>>"Furthermore we know from experience that The King is quite often >>>>not implemented in the correct way and this of course leads to >>>>completely wrong results of matches and unnecesary discussions >>>>about a specific CM-setting. To create separate UCI-engines >>>>for each CM-setting defined in the Wb2Uci.eng under [EXTRAS] >>>>should be avoided at all cost." >>>> >>>>With such a set-up The King will not produce the same >>>>moves as in its orginal GUI !! >>>> >>>> >>>>Method 3 (do never use this one) >>>> >>>>[ENGINE] >>>>Name=The King 3.23 >>>>Author=Johan de Koning >>>>Filename=Wb2Uci.exe >>>> >>>>[OPTIONS] >>>>Program=TheKing3.23.exe >>>>InitString=cm_parm default\ncm_parm opk=xxx >>>>HashCommand=cm_parm tts=%i004096 >>>>;ShowThinkingMove=true >>>>;Logfile=true >>>>Visible=Ponder,Hash,ShowThinkingMove,Logfile,Extras >>>> >>>> >>>>[EXTRAS] >>>>Opponents Pawn (opp)=cm_parm opp=%i|spin|100|0|4500 >>>>Opponents Knight (opn)=cm_parm opn=%i|spin|100|0|1500 >>>>Opponents Bishop (opb)=cm_parm opb=%i|spin|100|0|1500 >>>>Opponents Rook (opr)=cm_parm opr=%i|spin|100|0|900 >>>>Opponents Queen (opq)=cm_parm opq=%i|spin|100|0|498 >>>>Kings Pawn (myp)=cm_parm myp=%i|spin|100|0|4500 >>>>Kings Knight (myn)=cm_parm myn=%i|spin|100|0|1500 >>>>Kings Bishop (myb)=cm_parm myb=%i|spin|100|0|1500 >>>>Kings Rook (myr)=cm_parm myr=%i|spin|100|0|900 >>>>Kings Queen (myq)=cm_parm myq=%i|spin|100|0|498 >>>>Contempt (cfd)=cm_parm cfd=%i|spin|0|-500|500 >>>>Strength (sop)=cm_parm sop=%i|spin|100|0|100 >>>>Attack Defend (avd)=cm_parm avd=%i|spin|0|-100|100 >>>>Randomness (rnd)=cm_parm rnd=%i|spin|0|0|100 >>>>Selective Search (sel)=cm_parm sel=%i|spin|9|0|16 >>>>Max Depth (md)=cm_parm md=%i|spin|999|0|999 >>>>My Centre Control (mycc)=cm_parm mycc=%i|spin|100|0|600 >>>>My Mobility (mymob)=cm_parm mymob=%i|spin|100|0|600 >>>>My King Safety (myks)=cm_parm myks=%i|spin|100|0|600 >>>>My Passed Pawn (mypp)=cm_parm mypp=%i|spin|100|0|600 >>>>My Pawn Weakness (mypw)=cm_parm mypw=%i|spin|100|0|600 >>>>Opponent's Centre Control (opcc)=cm_parm opcc=%i|spin|100|0|600 >>>>Opponent's Mobility (opmob)=cm_parm opmob=%i|spin|100|0|600 >>>>Opponent's King Safety (opks)=cm_parm opks=%i|spin|100|0|600 >>>>Opponent's Passed Pawn (oppp)=cm_parm oppp=%i|spin|100|0|600 >>>>Opponent's Weakness (oppw)=cm_parm oppw=%i|spin|100|0|600 >>>> >>>> >>>>Kind regards >>>>Kurt >>> >>> >>>Hi Kurt, >>> >>>I disagree with you on this. I've always used this method and CM9000 has >>>produced excellent results in my tournaments as shown. I would like to see some >>>evidence to back up your claim! >> >> Hi Graham >> Please compare moves/evaluation in CM-GUI and Fritz-GUI >> of a specific setting: they are not identical if the >> paramaters are defined under [EXTRAS] and that's the >> thing I do not like. If this does not bother you, you >> may nevertheless have fun with CM-Settings. Personally, >> I always want to know what I am testing and this is >> not guaranteed the way you have implemented The King >> under Fritz-GUI. Only the methods with textfiles or the >> the method with settings (parameters) defined in the >> InitString are therefore recommanded by me. We (Manfred >> Meiler and myself) have tried to find out why this is >> so with Odd Gunnar Malin some years ago, but did not >> found out the reason of the not identical behaviour >> of the engine. >> Kind regards >> Kurt > > >Hi Kurt, > >I will try it out and see what happens. It is interesting to note that I have >always used your preferred method with CM10th, but CM9000 still seems to do well >in comparison! > >Regards, Graham. The point isn't that one way is better strengthwise. The point is that your way may get slightly different results... I personally don't think it is a very big deal.
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