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Subject: Re: Question about Crafty output (Bob??)

Author: Les Fernandez

Date: 18:44:53 04/19/05

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On April 19, 2005 at 21:20:27, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On April 19, 2005 at 01:43:24, Les Fernandez wrote:
>
>>On April 19, 2005 at 00:41:36, Les Fernandez wrote:
>>
>>>On April 18, 2005 at 22:39:01, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 18, 2005 at 16:43:58, Les Fernandez wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Can someone explain to me the differences in the following outputs by Crafty.
>>>>>These are some of the scenarios I came across.
>>>>>
>>>>>ce 1; pv;
>>>>>ce 0; pv;
>>>>>pv;
>>>>>ce 0;
>>>>>ce 1;
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Les
>>>>
>>>>I don't know what that is.  the ce 1 usually means that one side is material
>>>>ahead, but the position is dead drawn.  ce 0 usually means equal material
>>>>draw...
>>>
>>>Hi Bob,
>>>
>>>Maybe I will post one position for each of the above outputs to see if you can
>>>qualify it Tuesday evening.  Thanks for your input.
>>>
>>>Les
>>
>>Decided to get them posted tonight <S>
>>
>>Here they are (actual output)
>>
>>k1K5/8/8/1R6/8/8/8/8 b - - acd 1; acn 1; acs 1; ce 0; pv Ka7;
>>k1K5/6R1/8/8/8/8/8/8 b - - acd 1; acn 1; acs 1; ce 1; pv;
>>k1K5/8/8/8/8/8/8/R7 b - - acd 1; acn 1; acs 1; ce -32767; pv;
>
>These all seem to be positions that are directly found in a tablebase.  'acd' is
>the depth searched, 'acn' is the number of nodes searched, and 'ce' is the
>score.  Since the root position of each is in a tablebase, it only looks up one
>node.

Hi Jeremiah,

Yes I understand that but I am trying to minimize a concern of mine when looking
at egtb's here. ie first line says "ce 0; pv Ka7;" is this a draw or is it a
mate.  Bob has mentioned that there are some cases where if there is only one
move to make then you can have a ce 0.  The next epd string there is "ce 1; pv;"
I am not quite sure I understand the ce 1 and am a bit confused with the lack of
a pv.  Regarding the third line I assume that "-32767; pv;" means either the
current board with no move is mate?? or there is only one final moce to mate but
if so then why is pv blank?

The reason I need to have a firm understanding of this is I am trying to get the
"complete" solution set for the krk egtb but I must have output in epd format
and that it includes the ce for mates and only ce 0 when it is a draw.

Thanks for the thoughts,

Les



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