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Subject: Re: A Blast from the past - Feng Hsu Stuff & Nonsense Hyatt!

Author: chandler yergin

Date: 11:41:54 04/20/05

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On April 20, 2005 at 12:38:05, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 20, 2005 at 12:34:41, chandler yergin wrote:
>
>>On April 20, 2005 at 12:03:39, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On April 20, 2005 at 11:58:40, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 20, 2005 at 08:42:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 19, 2005 at 22:02:32, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Let's put some stuff to rest here..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Quoting from FENG-HSIUNG HSU's Book
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Behind Deep Blue"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pg 207
>>>>>> The match contract explicitly obliged the Deep Blue team to provide, when
>>>>>>requested, the scores of all our public tournament games.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>True, he did not have access to games played by the newest version of the
>>>>>>program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We wanted to be fair, but to give Garry games from our pre-match training would
>>>>>>have placed us at a serious disadvantage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pg 219.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The chess books I had only gave cursory treatments on the positional play of the
>>>>>>Queen
>>>>>>After this game Joe wrote some simple code on where the Queen should be placed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pg 220.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>An automatic tuning run for the evaluation function pointed out to us that the
>>>>>>weighting for one class of King Safety should be increased.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pg224.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The morning before game 2, the team debated whether we should make changes
>>>>>>to Deep Blue's evaluation function. Joe had already 'fixed' the bug responsible
>>>>>>for the last move in game 1, but there were other changes we needed to look
>>>>>>into.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pg 238.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The penalty for Bishops being shut out from the game was increased after this
>>>>>>game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pg 243.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Granting him direct access to Deep Blue's game logs would be equivilent to
>>>>>>giving him Deep Blue's silicon head on a  silver platter, with $700,000 on the
>>>>>>side.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Well, enough Quotes..
>>>>>>Read the BOOK!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I read the book.  I read it before it was published in fact, since he asked me
>>>>>to proofread the thing before it was completed...
>>>>>
>>>>>grow up...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then you KNOW it was NOT a fair Contest!
>>>
>>>
>>>Because you say so?
>>>
>>>Kasparov dictated the rules.  he lost
>>
>>He did not dictate the rules; he "agreed to" the Rules,
>>a big difference!
>>The Rules were stacked against him from the beginning.
>
>Shows your ignorance.  _HE_ set the rules.  _HE_ was the one IBM wanted to play
>for max P/R exposure.  He got _everything_ he asked for.

Kasparov played by the Rules of Chess.
All other rules were "mutually" agreed upon.
Kasparov asked for NO special treatment!

I am not impressed by your 'brilliance', nor baffled by your BS!
Your bias against Kasparov is apparent!
Your antagonism against those who disagree with you is very apparent!


>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>get over it
>>
>>Admit your Bias towards Kasparov, and your lack of objectivity
>>& logic, and perhaps I will.
>
>Right after you admit your ignorance about computer chess in general, deep blue
>and the match in particular.

Nonsense!

>
>>
>>I think you owe Kasparov, the Greatest Player an apology!
>
>I don't owe him anything.

No, your arrogance prevents that!
>
>
>>>
>>>Got any kinfolk in Canada?



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