Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 09:32:15 04/22/05
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On April 22, 2005 at 12:16:52, chandler yergin wrote: >On April 22, 2005 at 12:01:09, Mihaly Szalai wrote: > >>On April 22, 2005 at 09:29:13, Andrey Popov wrote: >> >>>This is the last position of the last game of Kasparov-Karpov match. >>>If Karpov (Black) reaches a draw, he wins the match. >>>Of course, White has a huge advantage. >>>However, I do not see any way to win. >>>5n1k/5Q2/4p1p1/2q1P2p/7P/6P1/5PK1/3B4 b - - 0 64 >>>[D]5n1k/5Q2/4p1p1/2q1P2p/7P/6P1/5PK1/3B4 b - - 0 64 >>>Why did Karpov resigned? >>>Can anybody see a series of White's moves leading to win after Qc5-b4? >>>Engines quickly go to score about +3.00 and stick on it forever. >> >>According to Kasparov this is the winning line: >> >>64... Qb4 65. Bf3 Qc5 66. Be4 Qb4 67. f3 Qd2+ 68. Kh3 Qh6 (68... Qb4 69. Bxg6 >>Nxg6 70. Qxg6 Qxh4+ 71. Kg2) 69. f4 Qg7 70. Qxg7+ Kxg7 71. Bc6+- >> >>and we can agree with him: >> >>71... Kf7 72. Kg2 Ke7 73. Kf3 Nh7 (73... Kd8 74. Ke4 Kc7 75. Be8 Kd8 76. Ba4 Kc7 >>77. Kd4) 74. Ke4 Nf8 75. Kd4 Kd8 (75... Nh7 76. Kc5 Nf8 77. Bb5 Nh7 78. Kc6 Nf8 >>79. Bd3) 76. Kc5 Kc7 77. Be4 etc. > > >Neither of you took the line to Mate! > >The +- & etc.. is not convincing! > >What engine can 'demonstate' a Mate? > >The PV evals are static positional values, and meaningless unless a Mate >is found. What you wrote is meaningless....Chan think before you type. First you don't know whether a computer was even employed, and even if it was, it's not important to show checkmate, which is some distance away. And if it were all computer, to state and I quote, "The PV evals are static positional values, and meaningless unless a Mate is found." Isn't correct regardless.
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