Author: chandler yergin
Date: 06:43:39 04/23/05
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On April 22, 2005 at 21:04:16, Mike Byrne wrote: >On April 22, 2005 at 20:49:40, Dan Honeycutt wrote: > >>In the spat further down the page between Chandler and Terry, Chandler makes the >>statement: >> >>"The PV evals are static positional values, and meaningless unless a Mate is >>found." >> >>In support of Chandler, I have seen engines evaluate themselves as +3 and wind >>up drawing or even losing the game. Giving equal time to Terry, it seldom >>happens and, off the top of my head, I can't recall seeing a top engine score >>itself +4 or better and fail to win the game. >> >>Perhaps other members can supply some instances. Membership in the Order of the >>Phoenix goes to the most impressive comebacks. >> >>Best >>Dan H. > >I have seen +6 or 7 and and the engine then lose. Very , rare and I don't have >examples to show. I think it may harder with today's engines and fast >processors -- my recollections are going back to the 90's and perhaps beyond. Gentlemen! Thank you for your support; I appreciate it. For additional information, and a good Test Case for all Engines, I woiuld like to present the following: This, and many other endgame positions are mis-evaluated by Computers.... It is not a rare occurance. I would appreciate and encourage all of you to "Start Your Engines" Please Post the results...... & PV Evals. Thank you! I might mention also, that during "analysis mode' Shredder 8 comment was that in this potion, Black is demolished! Oh yes, one more bit.. How many engines will find a draw withiin the 50 move Rule? ;) Correspondence Match White Fritz 6 Black Steve Ham Result 1/2 1/2 [D]2k5/4R3/1p6/1K6/P2b4/8/8/8 w - - 0 74
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