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Subject: Re: Hydra 35.b4! ; S9 : 36 min

Author: Eelco de Groot

Date: 18:42:53 04/23/05

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Hello Vincent,

Shouldn't that be 27 minutes for Shredder 9? Or does Shredder only show b4 after
36 minutes?

By the way, I tried quite a few different Pro Deo 1.1 Betazoid settings just to
see if it was easy to find 35.b4 faster, but so far no luck. If I tried
something, Pro Deo would go to the next iterations much slower than expected. My
old S&D 6_7e3 settings are a bit faster that Pro Deo 1.1 Betazoid T8 (26 minutes
instead of 55 minutes) and the Q3 and Q5T settings in Pro Deo 1.1 are WAY
faster:


Pro Deo 1.1 S&D 6_7e3

00:00:00.6	0,06	1	548	Rdd1
00:00:00.6	-0,58	2	871	Rdd1 Nf3+ Nxf3 gxh6
00:00:00.6	-0,12	2	1114	Be3 Ng6 Nxc6 Rxe3
00:00:00.6	0,06	2	2686	Nxc6 bxc6 Qxc5 dxc5
00:00:00.7	-0,32	3	4470	Nxc6 Nxc6 Qxc5 dxc5 Rd7
00:00:00.7	-0,32	3	5263	Be3
00:00:00.7	0,19	3	5411	Be3 Ng6 Ne6
00:00:00.8	0,26	4	10823	Be3 Ng6 Bxg6 fxg6 Ne6
00:00:00.8	-0,05	5	18902	Be3 Ng6 Nxc6 Rxe3 b4
00:00:01.0	0,18	5	57491	Rfd1 Bf3 Nxf3 gxh6 Nd4
00:00:01.6	-0,08	6	130059	Rfd1 Nf3+ gxf3 gxh6 Nxc6 bxc6 Qxc5 dxc5
00:00:01.8	0,08	6	172738	Be3 Qa3 Nxc6 bxc6 c5 Rad8 Qg3 dxc5
00:00:03.7	0,21	7	440419	Be3 Qa3 Nf5 Rad8 Nh6+ Kf8 Qg3
00:00:08.4	0,21	8	1161244	Be3 Qb4 Nf5 Rad8 Rfd1 Re6 Nd4
00:00:14.6	0,34	9	2153498	Be3 Qa3 Nf5 Rad8 Bb6 Rd7 Rfd1 Re6 Nd4
00:00:35.7	0,29	10	5818254	Be3 Qa3 Nf5 Rad8 Bb6 Rd7 Rfd1 Re6 Qg3 Qb4
00:01:45.8	0,25	11	19215581	Be3 Qb4 Rdd1 Nd7 Qf4 Qc5 Bf5
00:04:15.8	0,26	12	47604728	Be3 Qb4 Rfd1
00:13:15.6	0,31	13	149068822	Be3 Qb4 Rfd1 Rad8 Nf5
00:26:21.0	0,40	13	294290855	b4 Qb6 c5
00:47:42.5	0,34	14	534348655	b4 Qb6 c5 dxc5 Qg3 Nf3+ Nxf3 cxb4+ Kh1 a5 Ng5

Pro Deo 1.1 Q3 (All results on Celeron 500 MHZ 28 Mb HT)

00:00:00.6	0,28	1	177	Nxc6 bxc6
00:00:00.6	0,37	1	867	Qf4
00:00:00.6	0,63	1	2128	Be3
00:00:00.6	0,64	2	3294	Be3 Rad8
00:00:00.6	0,64	2	4866	Rfd1 Nf3+ Nxf3 Qxf2+ Kxf2 gxh6 Rxd6
00:00:00.8	0,64	2	20432	b4
00:00:00.8	0,88	2	23194	b4 Qxc4 Qg3 Ng4 Nxc6 Nxh6
00:00:01.3	1,05	3	84776	b4 Qb6 Qg3 Nf3+ gxf3 Bxd4+ Kh2
00:00:02.4	0,84	4	210732	b4 Qb6 Nxc6 Qxf2+ Rfxf2 Nxc6 Rxf6 gxf6 Ba4 Re1+
00:00:07.5	0,94	5	1001388	b4 Qb6 Rdd1 a5 Qg3
00:00:22.6	1,50	6	3379634	b4 Qb6 Kh1 Qd8 Qg3
00:00:39.9	1,84	7	6252216	b4 Qxb4 Qg3 Nf3+ Nxf3
00:01:09.7	1,79	8	11369445	b4 Qxb4 Qg3 Nf3+ Nxf3
00:03:04.0	1,86	9	31104994	b4 Qxb4 Qg3 Nf3+ Nxf3
00:10:25.7	2,01	10	108628004	b4 Nf3+ gxf3 Qxb4 Nxc6 bxc6 Bf4 d5 Bd3

Pro Deo 1.1 Q5T

00:00:00.6	0,25	1	162	Nxc6 bxc6
00:00:00.7	0,38	1	1263	Qf4
00:00:00.7	0,77	1	2659	Be3
00:00:00.7	0,77	2	3455	Be3 Nxc4 bxc4 Qxc4
00:00:00.7	0,78	2	5267	Rfd1 Nf3+ Nxf3 Qxf2+ Kxf2 gxh6 Rxd6
00:00:00.7	0,78	2	16640	b4
00:00:00.8	1,11	2	30073	b4 Qb6 Qg3 Nf3+ gxf3 Bxd4+ Kh2
00:00:01.1	1,11	3	79682	b4 Qb6 Qg3 Nf3+ gxf3 Bxd4+ Kh2
00:00:02.1	0,83	4	203309	b4 Qb6 Nxc6 Qxf2+ Rfxf2 bxc6 Rxd6 Nxc4 Rxc6
00:00:06.7	0,83	5	927173	b4 Qb6 Rdd1 Qxb4 Qf5 Bxg2 Qh7+ Kf8 Qh8+
00:00:29.5	1,71	6	4657928	b4 Qa7 Kh1 Nxc4 Bxg7 Nxd2 Bxf6 Nxf1 Qxf1
00:00:45.6	1,69	7	7420774	b4 Qxb4 Qg3 Nf3+ Nxf3 Qxc4
00:01:15.5	1,74	8	12642334	b4 Qxb4 Qg3 Nf3+ Nxf3 Qxc4
00:02:58.0	1,80	9	30652179	b4 Qxb4 Qg3 Nf3+ gxf3 Qc5 Rfd1
00:06:35.7	1,71	10	69397540	b4 Qxb4 Qg3 Nf3+ gxf3 Qc5 Rfd1

  Regards, Eelco

On April 23, 2005 at 20:44:28, Vincent Lejeune wrote:

>AMD@3000+; 384 MB hash
>
>Analysis by Shredder 9:
>...
>35.Fe3 Db4 36.Te1 Tad8 37.Cxc6 bxc6 38.Tde2 Dc3 39.Df5 Cg6 40.Fe4
>  =  (-0.16)   Profondeur: 10/26   00:00:01  452kN
>35.Fe3 Db4 36.Te1 Tad8 37.Cxc6 bxc6 38.Tde2 Dc3 39.Df5 Cg6 40.Fe4 Dxb3
>  =  (-0.16)   Profondeur: 11/26   00:00:02  1113kN
>35.Rh1
>  =  (-0.15)   Profondeur: 11/32   00:00:04  1687kN
>35.Rh1 Cf3 36.gxf3 gxh6 37.Cxc6 bxc6 38.Dg3+ Rf8 39.Dxd6+ Dxd6 40.Txd6 Te6
>41.Tfd1 Tae8
>  =  (-0.04)   Profondeur: 11/32   00:00:05  2130kN
>35.Rh1 Cf3 36.gxf3 gxh6 37.Cxc6 bxc6 38.Dg3+ Dg5 39.Dxg5+ hxg5 40.Txd6 Te6
>41.Tfd1 Fe5 42.Txe6 fxe6
>  =  (-0.06)   Profondeur: 12/33   00:00:09  3557kN
>35.Fe3
>  =  (-0.05)   Profondeur: 12/33   00:00:10  3902kN
>35.Fe3 Db4 36.Te1 Tad8 37.Cxc6 bxc6 38.Tde2 Dc3 39.Fd4 Da5 40.Rh2 Tb8
>  =  (-0.02)   Profondeur: 12/33   00:00:11  4441kN
>35.Fe3 Db4 36.Te1 Tad8 37.Cxc6 bxc6 38.Tde2 Dc3 39.Fd4 Db4 40.Fe3 Dc3 41.Fd4 Db4
>42.Fe3
>  =  (0.00)   Profondeur: 13/30   00:00:20  7928kN
>35.Rh1
>  =  (0.01)   Profondeur: 13/33   00:00:25  9553kN
>35.Rh1 Cf3 36.gxf3 gxh6 37.Cxc6 bxc6 38.Dg3+ Dg5 39.Dxg5+ hxg5 40.Txd6 Te6
>41.Tfd1 Tb8
>  =  (0.01)   Profondeur: 13/33   00:00:26  10004kN
>35.Rh1 Cd7 36.Fe3 Db4 37.Cf5 Te6 38.Cd4 Tee8 39.Cf5 Te6 40.Cd4 Tee8
>  =  (0.00)   Profondeur: 14/40   00:00:50  19160kN
>35.Rh1 Cd7 36.Fe3 Db4 37.Df5 Cf8
>  =  (0.01)   Profondeur: 15/43   00:01:37  37019kN
>35.Rh1 Cd7 36.Fe3 Db4 37.Cf5 Te6 38.Ff4 Fe5
>  =  (0.01)   Profondeur: 16/43   00:03:02  68023kN
>35.Rh1 Cf3 36.gxf3 gxh6 37.Cxc6 bxc6 38.Dg3+ Rf8 39.Dxd6+ Dxd6 40.Txd6 Te6
>41.Tfd1 c5 42.Ff5 Txd6 43.Txd6 Rg7 44.Rg2 Tb8 45.Txa6
>  =  (0.01)   Profondeur: 17/46   00:06:15  140553kN
>35.Rh1 Cf3 36.gxf3 gxh6 37.Cxc6 Dxf2 38.Tfxf2 Te1+ 39.Rg2 bxc6 40.Fe4 d5 41.cxd5
>Fc3
>  =  (-0.23)   Profondeur: 18/47   00:11:39  263051kN
>35.Fe3
>  =  (-0.22)   Profondeur: 18/48   00:13:46  303121kN
>35.Fe3 Db4 36.Cf5 Tad8 37.Ch6+ Rf8 38.Tfd1 Te6 39.Cf5 Rg8
>  =  (0.00)   Profondeur: 18/50   00:18:02  391720kN
>35.b4
>  =  (0.01)   Profondeur: 18/54   00:27:04  573846kN
>35.b4 Db6 36.Df5 Cf3+ 37.Txf3 Fxf3 38.Dh7+ Rf8 39.c5 Dxb4 40.Cf5 Te1+ 41.Rf2
>gxh6 42.Dxh6+ Rg8 43.Ce7+ Txe7 44.Fh7+ Rh8 45.Fc2+ Rg8 46.Fh7+ Rh8 47.Fc2+ Rg8
>  =  (0.11)   Profondeur: 18/54   00:35:57  762871kN
>
>
>On April 22, 2005 at 20:13:05, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>
>>
>>[d]r3r1k1/1p3pp1/p1bp1b1B/2q1n3/2PN4/1P5P/2BR1QP1/5RK1 w - - 0 35
>>Does your engine find 35.b4!! ?
>>
>>
>>
>>[Event "60m + 15s, rated"]
>>[Site "?"]
>>[Date "2005.04.22"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "Ares01, Hydra/Scylla-1.05bC"]
>>[Black "tsteng, Deep Shredder 9 UCI"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>[ECO "B58"]
>>[WhiteElo "2889"]
>>[BlackElo "2747"]
>>[PlyCount "107"]
>>[EventDate "2005.01.02"]
>>[EventType "rapid"]
>>
>>1. e4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 2. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} d6 {
>>[%emt 0:00:00]} 3. d4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} cxd4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 4. Nxd4 {
>>[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 5. Nc3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {
>>[%emt 0:00:00]} 6. Be2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} e5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 7. Nf3 {
>>[%emt 0:00:00]} h6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 8. O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]} Be7 {[%emt 0:00:00]
>>} 9. Re1 {[%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]} 10. h3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Be6 {
>>[%emt 0:00:00]} 11. Bf1 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Qa5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 12. a3 {
>>[%emt 0:00:00]} Rfc8 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 13. Rb1 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nb8 {
>>[%eval 9,17] [%emt 0:03:33]} 14. Be3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nbd7 {
>>[%eval 22,18] [%emt 0:05:53]} 15. Nd2 {[%eval -6,18] [%emt 0:02:19]} Nf8 {
>>[%eval 5,17] [%emt 0:00:06]} 16. Nb3 {[%eval 2,17] [%emt 0:02:51]} Qc7 {
>>[%eval 5,15] [%emt 0:00:31]} 17. f4 {[%eval 0,18] [%emt 0:01:46]} Bd7 {
>>[%eval -16,15] [%emt 0:02:08]} 18. Bd3 {[%eval 22,16] [%emt 0:02:40]} Bc6 {
>>[%eval 2,16] [%emt 0:02:59]} 19. Qf3 {[%eval 24,17] [%emt 0:03:03]} Re8 {
>>[%eval 25,17] [%emt 0:03:51]} 20. Rbd1 {[%eval 31,16] [%emt 0:01:36]} a6 {
>>[%eval 4,16] [%emt 0:02:34]} 21. Re2 {[%eval 15,15] [%emt 0:01:31]} exf4 {
>>[%eval -7,16] [%emt 0:01:06]} 22. Qxf4 {[%eval 25,17] [%emt 0:01:57]} Ng6 {
>>Ares01 reconnected. [%eval -6,17] [%emt 0:00:00]} 23. Qf3 {
>>[%eval 28,18] [%emt 0:01:49]} Ne5 {[%eval -5,15] [%emt 0:01:36]} 24. Qf2 {
>>[%eval 28,18] [%emt 0:01:36]} Bd7 {[%eval 0,15] [%emt 0:00:23]} 25. Rf1 {
>>[%eval 22,17] [%emt 0:02:09]} Bd8 {[%eval 5,16] [%emt 0:00:15]} 26. Nd4 {
>>[%eval 20,16] [%emt 0:04:07]} Qb6 {[%eval 1,17] [%emt 0:01:59]} 27. b3 {
>>[%eval 26,16] [%emt 0:01:20]} Qa5 {[%eval -58,16] [%emt 0:01:27]} 28. Nd5 {
>>[%eval 21,17] [%emt 0:00:52]} Nxd5 {[%eval -12,15] [%emt 0:02:12]} 29. exd5 {
>>[%eval 13,18] [%emt 0:00:01]} Qxd5 {[%eval 7,16] [%emt 0:03:19]} 30. Bf5 {
>>[%eval 16,17] [%emt 0:01:23]} Bf6 {[%eval 7,16] [%emt 0:01:54]} 31. Rd2 {
>>[%eval 20,16] [%emt 0:01:13]} Bc6 {[%eval -10,16] [%emt 0:00:26]} 32. c4 {
>>[%eval 33,17] [%emt 0:01:19]} Qa5 {[%eval -3,17] [%emt 0:01:41]} 33. Bc2 {
>>[%eval 48,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qxa3 {[%eval 1,16] [%emt 0:01:39]} 34. Bxh6 {
>>[%eval 68,16] [%emt 0:01:17]} Qc5 {[%eval 0,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} 35. b4 {
>>[%eval 50,16] [%emt 0:01:38]} Qxb4 {[%eval 79,16] [%emt 0:07:18]} 36. Qg3 {
>>[%eval 105,16] [%emt 0:01:46]} Bf3 {[%eval 71,15] [%emt 0:00:00]} 37. gxf3 {
>>[%eval 107,17] [%emt 0:02:18]} Qxc4 {[%eval 65,15] [%emt 0:02:12]} 38. Bb3 {
>>[%eval 199,17] [%emt 0:01:24]} Qc5 {[%eval 110,15] [%emt 0:01:08]} 39. Kh1 {
>>[%eval 249,17] [%emt 0:00:14]} g6 {[%eval 161,16] [%emt 0:01:45]} 40. Nf5 {
>>[%eval 288,17] [%emt 0:00:01]} Rad8 {[%eval 154,13] [%emt 0:00:27]} 41. Bd5 {
>>[%eval 358,16] [%emt 0:01:03]} Qb5 {[%eval 207,12] [%emt 0:00:50]} 42. Rfd1 {
>>[%eval 448,17] [%emt 0:01:11]} Qd7 {[%eval 579,16] [%emt 0:04:50]} 43. Nxd6 {
>>[%eval 514,20] [%emt 0:00:02]} Kh7 {[%eval 645,16] [%emt 0:01:50]} 44. Nxf7 {
>>[%eval 522,20] [%emt 0:00:01]} Qf5 {[%eval 645,15] [%emt 0:00:33]} 45. Nxd8 {
>>[%eval 543,19] [%emt 0:02:33]} Kxh6 {[%eval 623,19] [%emt 0:00:00]} 46. Nxb7 {
>>[%eval 575,18] [%emt 0:01:05]} Qg5 {[%eval 644,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} 47. Qf2 {
>>[%eval 608,18] [%emt 0:01:25]} Qh5 {[%eval 621,15] [%emt 0:00:48]} 48. Nd6 {
>>[%eval 602,18] [%emt 0:00:48]} Rd8 {[%eval 607,13] [%emt 0:00:12]} 49. Qe3+ {
>>[%eval 705,16] [%emt 0:01:13]} Kg7 {[%eval 662,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} 50. Qa7+ {
>>[%eval 720,16] [%emt 0:01:12]} Kh6 {[%eval 619,15] [%emt 0:00:53]} 51. Be4 {
>>[%eval 720,17] [%emt 0:00:57]} Rxd6 {[%eval 758,13] [%emt 0:02:41]} 52. Rxd6 {
>>[%eval 810,17] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qxh3+ {[%eval 805,15] [%emt 0:00:46]} 53. Kg1 {
>>[%eval 842,17] [%emt 0:00:03]} Nxf3+ {[%eval 831,15] [%emt 0:01:55]} 54. Bxf3 {
>>Tsteng,Deep Shredder 9 UCI abandonne  (Lag: Av=1.05s, max=7.1s) [%eval 1120,
>>15] [%emt 0:00:44]} 1-0



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