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Subject: Re: Order of the Phoenix

Author: Dan Honeycutt

Date: 01:21:14 04/24/05

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On April 23, 2005 at 01:35:48, Graham Banks wrote:

>On April 22, 2005 at 21:04:16, Mike Byrne wrote:
>
>>On April 22, 2005 at 20:49:40, Dan Honeycutt wrote:
>>
>>>In the spat further down the page between Chandler and Terry, Chandler makes the
>>>statement:
>>>
>>>"The PV evals are static positional values, and meaningless unless a Mate is
>>>found."
>>>
>>>In support of Chandler, I have seen engines evaluate themselves as +3 and wind
>>>up drawing or even losing the game.  Giving equal time to Terry, it seldom
>>>happens and, off the top of my head, I can't recall seeing a top engine score
>>>itself +4 or better and fail to win the game.
>>>
>>>Perhaps other members can supply some instances.  Membership in the Order of the
>>>Phoenix goes to the most impressive comebacks.
>>>
>>>Best
>>>Dan H.
>>
>>I have seen +6 or 7 and and the engine then lose.   Very , rare and I don't have
>>examples to show.  I think it may harder with today's engines and fast
>>processors -- my recollections are going back to the 90's and perhaps beyond.
>
>
>I've seen an engine scoring +4.8 failing to win the game and it was one of the
>currently available top engines.
>
>Graham.

Hi Graham

Who was it?  Or better, to spare them the embarrassment, who was the opponent?
Coming back from a -4.8 against a top engine should warrant membership in the
order.

Best
Dan H.



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