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Subject: Re: Is it possible to build a Top antichess engine ?

Author: Eduard Nemeth

Date: 03:45:09 04/24/05

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Hello Pablo!

It is not possible, everytime play anticomputer chess variantion. That ist only
possible when the engines plays with a normally book or own book.

But: if I let play a engine egainst You with black variations like 1....a6 -->
2...b6 -->3...h6 and another curious moves (like 1...f6 ---> fallowing g6 etc..)

You will have great problems against my engine.

I am open for a experiment against You (with a curious book), timecontrol
3m + 0s. OK?

We can play on Playchessc.com.

In my opinion the engines on playchess.com plays only normally bookmoves then
engines plays in 99% of games (german fast allen Games) against another
computers and here is a anti-human style not the best.

Do You understand me?

But when I know that I play against You, then I load a another book, and we will
seen was of moves will come in the games, ok?

I need not play against a extra prepare book against a computer (this is the
reason!) and I say this in Year 2000 ! I woult play against Fritz in this time,
but onnly the own book from the engine! The answer was NO!

German: Diese Herausforderung hatte man abgeleht, und eine neue angeboten:

Unter anderem:

a) ich durfte die Versions Nummer der Engine nicht kennen.

Hättest Du so gespielt? Ich nicht, und sagte natürlich für so ein Spielchen
Nein. Grund: Das Programm wurde damals eta mit 2600-2700 Elo gehandelt (sieh
auch SSDF), udn ich wollte sehen ob die Kombination aus der Verkaufsversion +
dem dazugehörigem Buch, bzw. einer Engine die ich wenigstens 14 Tage  + normales
Buch, auch tatsächlich diese 2600-2700 Elo bringen würde. Im Blitz (ich wollte
Blitz spielen :-) sollte die Engine ja noch mal stärker sein. Als Amateur hätte
ich somit höchsten nur ein Remis aus 24 Partien schaffen dürfen, und einen GM,
zum Vergleich, hätte ich auch nicht besiegen dürfen. Dieses Risiko aber wollte
man offenbar nicht eingehen, und so wurden u.a. diese 2 Forderungen (a und b)
geändert!

b) das buch durfte ich ebenfalls natürlich nicht kennen! :)

german: Ohne die Forderungen a und b hat man natürlich wenn man so gut
anticomputer spielt, die besseren chancen.

Regards,
Eduard


On April 23, 2005 at 10:16:10, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote:

>Regards for everyone,
>
>I would like to know if is it possible to build an engine that only seek to play
>in the first 3 or max 4 lines thinking all the time in how to make an excelent
>defense, and to blocked the pawn structure, and just ocasionally (5%)to advance
>the pawn structure.....
>An engine that:
>1- Build fast playing white an stone wall or similar.
>2- Build fast playing black against diference move to e4 an stone wall or
>similar ..
>3- Built playing black against e4 and irregular blocked defense like French
>irregular lines or a Ruy Lopez clouse defense that is modified in the midle game
>figures go back to blocked all.
>4- Readgroup his figures in first 2 lines max 3 line.
>5- Blocked possition all the time
>6- Win on time or puting crazy his oponent...
>7 Change his good bishop and takecare of his bad bishop becouse it is the best
>for defense or antichess objetive going to e1 to take care of h4 and b5.....
>8- Many time to preffer the knight to the rook
>9- Move same figure many times repeating agfain and again faster than the engine
>or human being answer oponent
>10- Could won playing some times without queen in an absolutly bloicked position
>11- To win Top ortodhox engines
>12- To play destructive chess and not creative chess and win
>13-Dont play opening books many times and to continue blocking all
>
>I have think that human beings for ever playing chess in the same face of a
>coin. Now I am playing in the other face..... antichess...... Chess is like the
>day, antichess like the night ....but antichess + chess =l one day.
>Could a programer been cappable to build that engine evaluated exactly like I
>have been evaluating ? ....... Could and engine to be some times logical and
>some times not logical, just to find the victorie  and go to the WCCC and to be
>a Champion?
>Best regard for everyone chessprogramers and chessplayers here,
>I would like to play against a serius project of that kind of mounster ....
>Pablo Ignacio



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