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Subject: Re: H7 vs GM scenario

Author: Reynolds Takata

Date: 01:40:06 02/05/99

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On February 04, 1999 at 20:37:03, James T. Walker wrote:

>On February 04, 1999 at 18:30:00, Reynolds Takata wrote:
>>Say that Hiarcs is actually ELO 2550 strength, and he plays GM 2585 ELO.  The
>>2585 defeats H7 in a 6 game match by 3.5 to 2.5. or even less.  Well firstly i
>>would hope that no one would start claiming that the prog isn't GM strength
>>because it lost.  If it's only 2550 it's supposed to lose.  If H7 wins, well
>>that speaks for itself :).  I believe also if the comp achieved merely the score
>>above it would have a relative provisional of 2518, and perhaps that would speak
>>a little something as well.
>
>I see the problem a little differently I guess.  The thing is, no matter which
>side you are on, you can start making your excuses right now.  There are too
>many variables.
>
>1. It's not the real H7 since it was specially prepared.
>2. The GM had too much time to find weaknesses.
>3. The GM didn't play it straight up (He played h3 and took it out of book .
>4. The hardware was not the best/fastest available.
>5. H7 was not properly prepared by the operator.
>6. One match does not prove anything.
>7. The GM is very informed about computer weaknesses.
>8. The GM did not take advantage of the computer weakness.
>9. Add your own excuses, you've got 5 months !
>:>)  )<:
>Jim Walker


Well you actually don't see the problem at all.
The thing here is that this the statement here made above is not an excuse but
actual point of fact.  If Kasparov was a computer and he played a match for the
first time and lost, then a lot of people here would start saying he was not a
GM.  Well the point i made is that, you can still make that claim, but it's not
legitimate to say not a GM based upon losing a match alone.  After all in the
70s both Larsen and Taimanov lost matches 6 0, yet no one would say they are not
GM's.  I resent you attempting to cheapen the statement i made as an excuse.



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