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Subject: Re: H7 vs GM scenario

Author: Reynolds Takata

Date: 01:59:22 02/05/99

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On February 04, 1999 at 18:44:23, Jeff Anderson wrote:

>Hey, why even have a match?  According to you, if it wins, it's GM strength.  If
>it loses, it's GM strength.

Hey why have a bad attitude?  I make this statement because there is no possible
way you could have made such a statement unless that's exactly what you have.
Why? Because i didn't say if it wins or loses that it's a GM.  What i said is
that if it loses that alone does not make it not a GM, and here you are in what
i PERCEIVE(could be wrong) as a sarcastic statement "if it loses it's a GM"
something that i never said, but rather something you wanted to see me saying.
If it wins i said "well that speaks for itself". This here is open to some
interpretation. However, if it wins that doesn't make it GM strength for certain
either, though just as many people that would say that it isn't a GM based on
losing, will say it is a GM simply based upon it winning.  Though all things
being equal and the GM opponent actually playing at his rating strength would
suggest a rating equivalent to the strength of at least a low GM for the comp,
if the comp was to win the match.

In another post in this thread, i mentioned in the 70s Taimanov and Larsen lost
matches 6 0, this certainly does not mean they weren't GM strength, or that they
played less than GM strength.  However, if they had actually beaten Fischer by
the margin of 6 0, then there are few(probably none!) that would have said that
their performance in that case was not indicative of GM strength!  So, without
making any bold statement to paraphrase i said a win "would speak for itself".
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>On February 04, 1999 at 18:30:00, Reynolds Takata wrote:
>>Say that Hiarcs is actually ELO 2550 strength, and he plays GM 2585 ELO.  The
>>2585 defeats H7 in a 6 game match by 3.5 to 2.5. or even less.  Well firstly i
>>would hope that no one would start claiming that the prog isn't GM strength
>>because it lost.  If it's only 2550 it's supposed to lose.  If H7 wins, well
>>that speaks for itself :).  I believe also if the comp achieved merely the score
>>above it would have a relative provisional of 2518, and perhaps that would speak
>>a little something as well.



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