Author: Reynolds Takata
Date: 02:10:32 02/05/99
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On February 05, 1999 at 04:59:22, Reynolds Takata wrote: >On February 04, 1999 at 18:44:23, Jeff Anderson wrote: > >>Hey, why even have a match? According to you, if it wins, it's GM strength. If >>it loses, it's GM strength. > >Hey why have a bad attitude? I make this statement because there is no possible >way you could have made such a statement unless that's exactly what you have. >Why? Because i didn't say if it wins or loses that it's a GM. What i said is >that if it loses that alone does not make it not a GM, and here you are in what >i PERCEIVE(could be wrong) as a sarcastic statement "if it loses it's a GM" >something that i never said, but rather something you wanted to see me saying. >If it wins i said "well that speaks for itself". This here is open to some >interpretation. However, if it wins that doesn't make it GM strength for certain >either, though just as many people that would say that it isn't a GM based on >losing, will say it is a GM simply based upon it winning. Though all things >being equal and the GM opponent actually playing at his rating strength would >suggest a rating equivalent to the strength of at least a low GM for the comp, >if the comp was to win the match. > >In another post in this thread, i mentioned in the 70s Taimanov and Larsen lost >matches 6 0, this certainly does not mean they weren't GM strength, or that they >played less than GM strength. However, if they had actually beaten Fischer by >the margin of 6 0, then there are few(probably none!) that would have said that >their performance in that case was not indicative of GM strength! So, without >making any bold statement to paraphrase i said a win "would speak for itself". P.S. The reason winning does indeed suggest GM strength(not prove it), is because of the unlikelyhood of actually defeating a GM, in such a match and not be at least at the lowest level that could be considered GM strength(2500). >> >> >>On February 04, 1999 at 18:30:00, Reynolds Takata wrote: >>>Say that Hiarcs is actually ELO 2550 strength, and he plays GM 2585 ELO. The >>>2585 defeats H7 in a 6 game match by 3.5 to 2.5. or even less. Well firstly i >>>would hope that no one would start claiming that the prog isn't GM strength >>>because it lost. If it's only 2550 it's supposed to lose. If H7 wins, well >>>that speaks for itself :). I believe also if the comp achieved merely the score >>>above it would have a relative provisional of 2518, and perhaps that would speak >>>a little something as well.
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