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Subject: Re: The Fredkin Prize

Author: chandler yergin

Date: 15:08:01 04/26/05

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On April 26, 2005 at 17:04:26, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 26, 2005 at 16:52:10, chandler yergin wrote:
>
>>On April 26, 2005 at 16:35:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On April 26, 2005 at 15:46:33, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 26, 2005 at 14:44:22, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 26, 2005 at 12:29:27, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>The Fredkin Prize was $100,000 for the first team to build or program
>>>>>>a computer that would defeat the World Champion in a Match!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Deep Blue Team won it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No it wasn't
>>>>>
>>>>>It was a three stage prize.  The first for the author of the first computer to
>>>>>achieve a master chess rating.  Awarded to Belle in 1983.  The second for the
>>>>>first program to produce a 2600 performance rating over 25 consecutive games
>>>>>against grandmaster players in long (40 moves in 2 hours or slower) games.
>>>>>Awarded to deep thought in the early 1990's.  The final stage was to beat the
>>>>>world champion in a match.  Awarded to IBM in 1997.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Your point would be???
>>>>
>>>>As I Posted!
>>>>
>>>>The Fredkin Prize was $100,000 for the first team to build or program
>>>>a computer that would defeat the World Champion in a Match!
>>>>
>>>>Awarded to IBM in 1997.
>>>>
>>>>What don't you understand?
>>>>
>>>>What do the previous stages have to do with what happened in 1997?
>>>>
>>>>Why do deliberately try and Provoke me?
>>>>Hmmm?
>>>
>>>I answered that earlier.  IBM spent _millions_ of dollars on the deep blue
>>>project.  The salaries were about $1M per year for the entire team, spread over
>>>10 years.  Not to mention the hardware, the public relations setup, the expenses
>>>for Kasparov.  The prize fund.  And they did all of that to win $100,000.00???
>>>
>>>:)
>>>
>>>Absolutely amazing logic.  I hope you get better advise for investing for your
>>>retirement,  15+ million dollars over 10 years to get a return of $100,000 is
>>>_not_ very smart investing...  IMHO anyway...
>>
>>Why can't you accept your friend HSU's own words?
>>Pg 263
>>"Right after the rematch we did not believe that we would receive the
>>Fredkin Prize.
>>While satisfying the original intent of the Prize,
>>the match did not conform to the Prize Committee's match conditions
>>set a few years back, in particular the length of the match and the size of the
>>prize fund."
>>
>>Hmmmm?
>
>
>I don't have any idea what point you are trying to make.  Perhaps that because
>he wrote that statement, that somehow implies that winning the Fredkin stage III
>prize was the ultimate goal of this little exercise?
>
>Not true.
>
>It was something that happened along the way, for sure.  But it was not any
>driving motivation for IBM as you are trying to imply.  It was way too little
>money for what IBM invested in the DB project...

I have never implied it was the motivation of IBM.. it was the motivation
of the TEAM.
It was never any secret!



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