Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 05:54:17 04/27/05
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On April 26, 2005 at 23:33:25, chandler yergin wrote: >On April 26, 2005 at 19:50:01, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On April 26, 2005 at 18:08:01, chandler yergin wrote: >> >>>On April 26, 2005 at 17:04:26, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On April 26, 2005 at 16:52:10, chandler yergin wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 26, 2005 at 16:35:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 26, 2005 at 15:46:33, chandler yergin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 26, 2005 at 14:44:22, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On April 26, 2005 at 12:29:27, chandler yergin wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The Fredkin Prize was $100,000 for the first team to build or program >>>>>>>>>a computer that would defeat the World Champion in a Match! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The Deep Blue Team won it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>No it wasn't >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>It was a three stage prize. The first for the author of the first computer to >>>>>>>>achieve a master chess rating. Awarded to Belle in 1983. The second for the >>>>>>>>first program to produce a 2600 performance rating over 25 consecutive games >>>>>>>>against grandmaster players in long (40 moves in 2 hours or slower) games. >>>>>>>>Awarded to deep thought in the early 1990's. The final stage was to beat the >>>>>>>>world champion in a match. Awarded to IBM in 1997. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Your point would be??? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>As I Posted! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The Fredkin Prize was $100,000 for the first team to build or program >>>>>>>a computer that would defeat the World Champion in a Match! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Awarded to IBM in 1997. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>What don't you understand? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>What do the previous stages have to do with what happened in 1997? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Why do deliberately try and Provoke me? >>>>>>>Hmmm? >>>>>> >>>>>>I answered that earlier. IBM spent _millions_ of dollars on the deep blue >>>>>>project. The salaries were about $1M per year for the entire team, spread over >>>>>>10 years. Not to mention the hardware, the public relations setup, the expenses >>>>>>for Kasparov. The prize fund. And they did all of that to win $100,000.00??? >>>>>> >>>>>>:) >>>>>> >>>>>>Absolutely amazing logic. I hope you get better advise for investing for your >>>>>>retirement, 15+ million dollars over 10 years to get a return of $100,000 is >>>>>>_not_ very smart investing... IMHO anyway... >>>>> >>>>>Why can't you accept your friend HSU's own words? >>>>>Pg 263 >>>>>"Right after the rematch we did not believe that we would receive the >>>>>Fredkin Prize. >>>>>While satisfying the original intent of the Prize, >>>>>the match did not conform to the Prize Committee's match conditions >>>>>set a few years back, in particular the length of the match and the size of the >>>>>prize fund." >>>>> >>>>>Hmmmm? >>>> >>>> >>>>I don't have any idea what point you are trying to make. Perhaps that because >>>>he wrote that statement, that somehow implies that winning the Fredkin stage III >>>>prize was the ultimate goal of this little exercise? >>>> >>>>Not true. >>>> >>>>It was something that happened along the way, for sure. But it was not any >>>>driving motivation for IBM as you are trying to imply. It was way too little >>>>money for what IBM invested in the DB project... >>> >>>I have never implied it was the motivation of IBM.. it was the motivation >>>of the TEAM. >>>It was never any secret! >> >> >>there you are completely "full of it." The fredkin prize was _not_ the >>motivation for the "team". We were all in this "grand chase" way before any >>Fredkin prize even existed. Sorry. > >Why do you try and provoke, and why do you mislead? > >By your own admission and words: > >The Fredkin Prize > >"It was a three stage prize. The first for the author of the first computer to >achieve a master chess rating. Awarded to Belle in 1983. The second for the >first program to produce a 2600 performance rating over 25 consecutive games >against grandmaster players in long (40 moves in 2 hours or slower) games. >Awarded to deep thought in the early 1990's. The final stage was to beat the >world champion in a match. Awarded to IBM in 1997." > >In the words of HSU: >The adventure to create Deep Blue, the first computer to defeat the World Chess >Champion in a serious match. >"I started the project in 1985." > >The 'Team' did not exist until then! > >Sorry... the people did. And they were involved in computer chess. Murray for at least 10 years prior to that. Etc...
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