Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 05:55:49 04/27/05
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On April 27, 2005 at 00:18:07, Keith Evans wrote: >On April 26, 2005 at 17:05:22, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On April 26, 2005 at 16:45:02, chandler yergin wrote: >> >>>On April 26, 2005 at 16:35:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On April 26, 2005 at 15:46:33, chandler yergin wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 26, 2005 at 14:44:22, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 26, 2005 at 12:29:27, chandler yergin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>The Fredkin Prize was $100,000 for the first team to build or program >>>>>>>a computer that would defeat the World Champion in a Match! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The Deep Blue Team won it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>No it wasn't >>>>>> >>>>>>It was a three stage prize. The first for the author of the first computer to >>>>>>achieve a master chess rating. Awarded to Belle in 1983. The second for the >>>>>>first program to produce a 2600 performance rating over 25 consecutive games >>>>>>against grandmaster players in long (40 moves in 2 hours or slower) games. >>>>>>Awarded to deep thought in the early 1990's. The final stage was to beat the >>>>>>world champion in a match. Awarded to IBM in 1997. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Your point would be??? >>>>> >>>>>As I Posted! >>>>> >>>>>The Fredkin Prize was $100,000 for the first team to build or program >>>>>a computer that would defeat the World Champion in a Match! >>>>> >>>>>Awarded to IBM in 1997. >>>>> >>>>>What don't you understand? >>>>> >>>>>What do the previous stages have to do with what happened in 1997? >>>>> >>>>>Why do deliberately try and Provoke me? >>>>>Hmmm? >>>> >>>>I answered that earlier. IBM spent _millions_ of dollars on the deep blue >>>>project. The salaries were about $1M per year for the entire team, spread over >>>>10 years. Not to mention the hardware, the public relations setup, the expenses >>>>for Kasparov. The prize fund. And they did all of that to win $100,000.00??? >>> >>>It wasn't about IBM.. it was for the TEAM! They, wanted to win at any cost.. >>> >>>The Fredkin Prize was for the Team that built or Progammed one that could beat >>>the World Champion! >>> >>>I explained that.. and so did HSU. >> >>Any idea who ended up with the $100,000 check? >> >>Didn't think so... >> > >I would think that we both agree that the check is irrelevent. They wanted to >win the Fredkin prize is was for the recognition, not for the check. Probably correct in a sense. The "fredkin prize" itself was not worth much at all, but the distinction of being the first machine to beat the world champion was everything... > Hsu could >have made many times more money by staying away from computer chess. It's like >getting a check from Donald Knuth. You frame it and put it on the wall, you >don't cash it. > >Chandler - do you have any idea how well compensated talented chip designers >are? Salary and stock options? After Hsu graduated from CMU, he could have come >to the Silicon Valley and worked at Cisco, Sun, ... and made far more money than >he got from IBM. You read the book so you know how hard he worked both at CMU >and IBM. Motivation for that kind of work does not come from money. What you >should be upset about is that such a talent was so insulted, that he decided to >walk from the computer chess scene. Imagine working so hard for over 10 years on >a project, and then getting the reaction that he got. Have you ever worked that >hard creating something? Succeeded? And then somebody trashes your creation?
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