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Subject: Re: H7 vs GM scenario

Author: Reynolds Takata

Date: 11:15:35 02/05/99

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On February 05, 1999 at 12:20:16, KarinsDad wrote:

>On February 05, 1999 at 05:10:32, Reynolds Takata wrote:
>
>>On February 05, 1999 at 04:59:22, Reynolds Takata wrote:
>>
>>>On February 04, 1999 at 18:44:23, Jeff Anderson wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hey, why even have a match?  According to you, if it wins, it's GM strength.  If
>>>>it loses, it's GM strength.
>>>
>>>Hey why have a bad attitude?  I make this statement because there is no possible
>>>way you could have made such a statement unless that's exactly what you have.
>>>Why? Because i didn't say if it wins or loses that it's a GM.  What i said is
>>>that if it loses that alone does not make it not a GM, and here you are in what
>>>i PERCEIVE(could be wrong) as a sarcastic statement "if it loses it's a GM"
>>>something that i never said, but rather something you wanted to see me saying.
>>>If it wins i said "well that speaks for itself". This here is open to some
>>>interpretation. However, if it wins that doesn't make it GM strength for certain
>>>either, though just as many people that would say that it isn't a GM based on
>>>losing, will say it is a GM simply based upon it winning.  Though all things
>>>being equal and the GM opponent actually playing at his rating strength would
>>>suggest a rating equivalent to the strength of at least a low GM for the comp,
>>>if the comp was to win the match.
>>>
>>>In another post in this thread, i mentioned in the 70s Taimanov and Larsen lost
>>>matches 6 0, this certainly does not mean they weren't GM strength, or that they
>>>played less than GM strength.  However, if they had actually beaten Fischer by
>>>the margin of 6 0, then there are few(probably none!) that would have said that
>>>their performance in that case was not indicative of GM strength!  So, without
>>>making any bold statement to paraphrase i said a win "would speak for itself".
>>
>>
>>P.S.  The reason winning does indeed suggest GM strength(not prove it), is
>>because of the unlikelyhood of actually defeating a GM, in such a match and not
>>be at least at the lowest level that could be considered GM strength(2500).
>
>I'm glad you put in the P.S. I understood your previous post until the last
>sentence. Glad you cleared it up.
>
>KarinsDad
>

Again here, this post of yours is totally unnecessary and pointless.  This
response also is just taking up space so i hope you wont continue eliciting
them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On February 04, 1999 at 18:30:00, Reynolds Takata wrote:
>>>>>Say that Hiarcs is actually ELO 2550 strength, and he plays GM 2585 ELO.  The
>>>>>2585 defeats H7 in a 6 game match by 3.5 to 2.5. or even less.  Well firstly i
>>>>>would hope that no one would start claiming that the prog isn't GM strength
>>>>>because it lost.  If it's only 2550 it's supposed to lose.  If H7 wins, well
>>>>>that speaks for itself :).  I believe also if the comp achieved merely the score
>>>>>above it would have a relative provisional of 2518, and perhaps that would speak
>>>>>a little something as well.



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