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Subject: Re: Kasparov [HBR interview] : 'IBM committed a crime against science.'

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 15:16:57 04/27/05

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On April 27, 2005 at 17:48:53, Matthew Hull wrote:

>On April 27, 2005 at 17:05:21, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On April 26, 2005 at 15:59:11, Steven Edwards wrote:
>>
>>>I'm sure that issue was covered in the match contract.  In computer chess events
>>>for nearly three decades prior to the event, adjustments made between games were
>>>permitted.
>>
>>And this is the cancer that destroys honest computer vs human chess.
>>
>>
>>>Kasparov knew what he was doing, particularly in the second match
>>>after his experience with the first.
>>
>>Interesting to write what Kasparov knew. We should better deal with what the
>>computerchess people knew. Apparently they didn't really know what they are
>>doing. And that for decades already. Ok, humans never really cared that much
>>because the overall chess emulation wasn't strong enough to be considered for
>>serious. But if compuerchess is propagating the superiority over human chess
>>things should be clarified a bit...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Kasparov is being a sore loser and is unhappy because he didn't get a third
>>>match and the money that would have come with it.  He's appears to be trying to
>>>help draw attention to himself for his political asperations that have nothing
>>>to do with chess, and he's making Valdimir Putin look good by comparison.
>>
>>
>>For sure Kasparov isn't a sore loser when it was Hsu&IBM who deconstructed the
>>machine so that no further tests could be made. Scientifically this is a crime
>>(that is what Kasparov is saying in the quoted interview). Whith whom Kasparov
>>should have made a third match? With people who betray their own science?
>
>
>Unfair.  It was not Hsu decision to "deconstruct" the machine.  But you blame
>him anyway.  Why do you do this?  It is completely unfair.
>
>You use this to claim Hsu cheated science.  But your claim is bogus because Hsu
>had NO CONTROL over that.


You make me laugh and shed tears. A scientist who has no control over his
science is no scientist! A scientist who sold his moral to economy has lost his
status of scientist. This is so trivial and sad to know that this could happen
in our field of computerchess.



>
>Give it up, Rolf.  You can't fool anybody with such poor logic built upon false
>premises.
>
>
>
>
>>That
>>Kasparov is not a politician, this is a different question. I would agree! He's
>>not.



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