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Subject: Re: Minor asymmetry

Author: Thomas Logan

Date: 10:00:38 04/28/05

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On April 28, 2005 at 12:12:47, Steven Edwards wrote:

>On April 27, 2005 at 09:23:16, Thomas Logan wrote:
>>On April 26, 2005 at 15:59:11, Steven Edwards wrote:
>>>On April 26, 2005 at 13:14:57, Pedro Gomes wrote:
>>>>On April 26, 2005 at 11:10:03, Steven Edwards wrote:
>
>>>I'm sure that issue was covered in the match contract.  In computer chess events
>>>for nearly three decades prior to the event, adjustments made between games were
>>>permitted.  Kasparov knew what he was doing, particularly in the second match
>>>after his experience with the first.
>>>
>>>Kasparov is being a sore loser and is unhappy because he didn't get a third
>>>match and the money that would have come with it.  He's appears to be trying to
>>>help draw attention to himself for his political asperations that have nothing
>>>to do with chess, and he's making Valdimir Putin look good by comparison.
>>
>>A little sympathy for Kasparov
>>
>>Yes Kasparov is whinning. Defeat is very hard for him to take but that
>>is what served to make him the great player and competitor that he was.
>>
>>I think this can be overlooked considering all the years he has given us
>>pleasure with his games and competative nature
>>
>>Personally I believe his retirement a great loss for the chess world
>
>Perhaps.  Yet ...
>
>It's acceptable for Kasparov to reture at his peak, but he continues to complain that Deep Blue's retirement was unfair, unsportsmanlike, and a crime against science.

And I agree kasparov is whinning but Deep blues retirement can hardly be
compared to kasparovs. Kaspy meet and defeated all contenders and for 18 years
was the highest rated player
>
>On another point:  Fischer, despite all his ravings, has at least two points in his favor compared to Kasparov with respect to computer chess.

>
>1. He played a three game match against Greenblatt's MacHack/Cheops system and
>didn't ask for a guaranteed appearance fee.

Was Greenblatt's MacHack/Cheops system anywhere near the strength of deep blue ?

Was there any chance Fischer might have lost to it ?

>
>2. Fischer never endorsed a product that he didn't personally use; compare this with Kasparov's mugshot and signature appearing on a multitude of products
>(Saitek hardware).  Did Kasparov have anything to do with the design,
>development, or testing?  I rather doubt it.

Well thats business. No different than we might see in any commercial enterprise

I was a Fischer fan but lets face it Fischer had/has exponentially more quirks
and hangups than Karparov

Tom



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