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Subject: Re: diep tested at dual core AMD/INTEL

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 18:44:21 04/28/05

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On April 28, 2005 at 18:13:03, Frank E. Oldham wrote:

I really wonder why they have SMT on those processors.

More and more it is obvious to everyone that replacing 1 good working car tyre
by 2 very thin bicycle tires is not a good idea.

>On April 28, 2005 at 13:51:02, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 28, 2005 at 07:52:27, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=667&pid=2543
>>>
>>>In world champs 2004 at quad opteron 2.0Ghz diep got about 380k nps in
>>>openingsposition.
>>>
>>>529k nps at dual core dual opteron. It's just incredible. Scaling 3.92
>>>Quad opteron world champs 2004 scaled 3.93
>>>
>>>This was a net2003 executable compiled in 32 bits. Intel c++ compiles were
>>>slower.
>>
>>
>>I think their data or test is a bit broken.  I have dual PIV's here, both my
>>xeon, and a dual 3.6 in the lab.  My scaling from 1 to 2 threads (no
>>hyper-threading turned on) is way better than 1.67X using 2 threads.
>>
>>For example, on my dual xeon, a quick test produced 1.51M nps using a single
>>processor, 2.89M using both.  Which is a 1.91X increase in NPS.
>>
>>On a 4-way 850, I have large tests that produce 2.32M for one cpu, 8.69M for
>>four cpus, which is 3.75X faster.  Comparing apples to apples, the dual 850 NPS
>>was 4.53M, which turns into 1.95X faster.  So for me, the dual xeon and the dual
>>opteron produce almost identical NPS scaling, although the opteron is about 2x
>>faster per cpu...
>
>Hi Bob,
>it looks like their 4-thread test is one dual-core P4 running hyperthreading
>versus two dual-core opterons.   :-)
>Frank



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