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Subject: Re: Difficult Test

Author: Vincent Lejeune

Date: 13:33:19 04/30/05

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On April 30, 2005 at 12:12:48, John Merlino wrote:

>On April 30, 2005 at 08:57:14, Rob Basham wrote:
>
>>[D]rnb2rk1/pp2bppp/2p5/q7/4NN2/4B1QP/PPP3P1/2KR3R w - - 0 1
>>
>>Any program find....Rd5....?
>>
>>All my programs just play Nd5...
>>
>>Rd5 attacks Queen and blocks the fifth file all in one move,
>>so gains  a tempo, permiting the next move Nh5..(after cxd5) etc.
>>
>>This could be a move that the computers just do not play.
>>
>>Rob
>
>The problem is that cxd5 is not required for Black. After 1.Rd5 Qc7! 2.Rh5, The
>King (CM9_R1 on a P4-2.4) gives 2...Na6 an eval of about +0.9 for White after
>three minutes, which isn't particularly exciting.
>
>After 2...Na6, the line might go 3.Bd4 f6 4.Qb3+ Rf7 5.Rf1 Qd7, and Black might
>be able to hold. The eval at this position after three minutes is still in the
>+0.9 range.

after 1.Rd5 Qc7 2.Rh5
[d]rnb2rk1/ppq1bppp/2p5/7R/4NN2/4B1QP/PPP3P1/2K4R b - - 0 2
Shredder give a big + to white:

Analysis by Shredder 9:
...
2...Ca6 3.Fd4 f6 4.Te1 Tb8
  ±  (1.17)   Profondeur: 14/44   00:01:09  28712kN
2...Ca6 3.Fd4
  +-  (1.42)   Profondeur: 15/42   00:01:32  38282kN
2...Ca6 3.Fd4 f6 4.Te1 c5
  +-  (1.42)   Profondeur: 15/46   00:01:57  49601kN
2...Ca6 3.Fd4
  +-  (1.67)   Profondeur: 16/43   00:02:48  71095kN
2...Ca6 3.Fd4
  +-  (2.17)   Profondeur: 16/47   00:04:11  105670kN
2...Ca6 3.Fd4 f6 4.Te1 c5 5.Fc3 Fd8 6.Dh4 h6 7.Cd5
  +-  (3.60)   Profondeur: 16/52   00:11:39  290929kN
2...Fd8
  +-  (3.59)   Profondeur: 16/52   00:12:31  313838kN
2...Fd8
  +-  (3.24)   Profondeur: 16/52   00:13:06  329391kN
2...Fd8 3.Fd4 f6 4.Fc5 Cd7 5.Fd6 Db6 6.Dd3 Da6 7.Dxa6 bxa6 8.Fxf8 Cxf8 9.Te1 Fc7
10.Cd3 Fe6 11.Cb4
  +-  (2.24)   Profondeur: 16/52   00:15:48  390028kN
2...Fd8 3.Fd4
  +-  (2.49)   Profondeur: 17/48   00:19:21  469806kN
2...Fd8 3.Fd4
  +-  (2.99)   Profondeur: 17/51   00:20:42  495776kN
2...Fd8 3.Fd4 f6 4.Te1 Ca6 5.Cd6 Dxd6 6.Db3+ Fe6 7.Cxe6 Fa5 8.Cxf8+ Rxf8 9.c3
Dg3
  +-  (4.86)   Profondeur: 17/56   00:44:54  1153465kN
2...Ca6
  +-  (4.85)   Profondeur: 17/56   00:45:42  1178025kN
2...Ca6
  +-  (4.50)   Profondeur: 17/56   00:48:08  1246632kN
2...Ca6 3.Fd4 f6 4.Te1 c5 5.Fc3 Fd8 6.Dh4 Cb4 7.Txh7 Dxf4+ 8.Dxf4 Cxa2+ 9.Rb1
Cxc3+ 10.Cxc3 Rxh7 11.Dh4+ Rg6 12.Cd5 Rf7
  +-  (3.85)   Profondeur: 17/56   00:55:19  1432622kN
2...f6
  +-  (3.84)   Profondeur: 17/56   00:56:11  1456866kN
2...f6
  +-  (3.49)   Profondeur: 17/56   00:56:42  1472191kN
2...f6 3.Cd5 Dxg3 4.Cxe7+ Rf7 5.Cxg3
  +-  (3.49)   Profondeur: 17/56   00:57:35  1495116kN
2...Td8
  +-  (3.48)   Profondeur: 17/56   01:03:20  1651785kN
2...Td8
  +-  (3.13)   Profondeur: 17/56   01:04:21  1683025kN
2...Td8 3.Cd5 Dxg3 4.Cxe7+ Rf8 5.Cxg3 Rxe7 6.Fc5+ Re8 7.Txh7 Fe6 8.Txg7 Ca6
  +-  (2.53)   Profondeur: 17/56   01:09:08  1818978kN
2...Td8 3.Cd5
  +-  (2.78)   Profondeur: 18/51   01:13:22  1937406kN
2...Td8 3.Te1
  +-  (2.78)   Profondeur: 18/51   01:18:09  2071928kN
2...Td8 3.Te1 Fe6 4.Cd5 Dxg3 5.Cxe7+ Rf8 6.Cxg3 Rxe7 7.Txh7 Tg8 8.Fd4 c5
  +-  (2.54)   Profondeur: 19/57   01:36:27  2543622kN
2...Td8 3.Te1
  +-  (2.79)   Profondeur: 20/59   01:59:41  3146496kN
2...Td8 3.Te1 Fe6 4.Cd5 Dxg3 5.Cxe7+ Rf8 6.Cxg3 Rxe7 7.Cf5+ Rf6 8.Fg5+ Rg6
9.Fxd8 Rxh5 10.Cxg7+ Rg6 11.Cxe6 fxe6 12.Txe6+ Rf5 13.Tf6+ Re4 14.Tf7 Ca6 15.Ff6
Cb4 16.Txh7
  +-  (2.93)   Profondeur: 20/59   02:12:38  3499864kN
2...Td8 3.Te1 Fe6 4.Cd5 Dxg3 5.Cxe7+ Rf8 6.Cxg3 Rxe7 7.Cf5+ Rf6 8.Fg5+ Rg6
9.Fxd8 Rxh5 10.Cxg7+ Rg6 11.Cxe6 fxe6 12.Txe6+ Rf5 13.Tf6+ Re4 14.Tf7 Ca6 15.Ff6
Cb4 16.Txh7
  +-  (3.08)   Profondeur: 21/61   03:18:48  5213352kN

>
>However, 1.Nd5 will probably have an eval of around +2.5 for White, which is
>much harder to ignore....
>
>jm



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