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Subject: Re: Crafty 16.4T

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:48:12 02/05/99

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On February 05, 1999 at 18:37:30, James T. Walker wrote:

>On February 05, 1999 at 17:39:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On February 04, 1999 at 23:05:04, James T. Walker wrote:
>>
>>>On February 04, 1999 at 22:05:26, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 04, 1999 at 19:55:03, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>
><<<<<< snip
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm not sure what you are testing, but _no_ 16.x version is 100 points better
>>>>or worse than another.  That is a _serious_ difference, which is lacking in
>>>>these.
>>>>
>>>>By my testing, 16.4 is quite a bit better than prior versions, based on a _lot_
>>>>of engine vs engine games on the chess servers...
>>>
>The games were played at G/10 or G/5.  I do this with early versions just to get
>a quick read on how it is doing.  If you rember, when I asked you earlier about
>where you thought Crafty was at it's best you effectively said to try anything I
>wanted.  I've tested Nimzo vs Fritz and Junior and they seem to play about as
>close at G/10 as they do at 40/90 with maybe Fritz being better at G/5 or G/10
>than the others.  Anyway I moved the time up to G/25 and so far Crafty is
>leading Nimzo by +9 -6 =7.  That's quite a turn around from 25-7 favor Nimzo.
>I've got the Tablebases working now.  I have to look over the games and see if
>the tablebases have made much difference.  Do you have any stats on how much
>better Crafty plays with tablebases?(ELO difference)
>Jim Walker
>

I really don't...  I don't think the 4 piece files make much difference at
all, but krp vs kr is a big one, and might figure in one of every 10-20 games
vs computers...

>
>>
>>
>>> Of course Crafty
>>>is playing without it's opening book.  I usually give it the Fritz 5.32 book.
>>>It is also playing without tabelbases.  That's why I'm trying to get the 16.4T
>>>version to use it's tablebases.  It has no book learning or hash learning
>>>either.  What do you think all these features add up to in elo points?  Without
>>>them it's getting crushed.  I'm playing Crafty on the PII because it doesn't
>>>seem to like the AMD K6-2.  The hardware is fairly close, maybe a 10% advantage
>>>for the K6-2.
>>>Regards,
>
>>>Jim Walker
>
>>snip<
>
>>I really can't guess what it playing without 'pieces' of itself is doing, but
>>it ought to play decently, so long as it doesn't get forced into bad book lines
>>by using someone else's book...  Getting a 'good start' is half of the battle
>>in these games...
>
>Jim



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