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Subject: Re: ICGA WCCC in Reykjavik: Playing via proxy

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 19:07:25 05/03/05

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On May 03, 2005 at 16:42:09, Peter Berger wrote:

>On May 03, 2005 at 14:29:18, Steven Edwards wrote:
>
>>On May 03, 2005 at 14:08:18, Peter Berger wrote:
>>>On May 03, 2005 at 12:39:12, Steven Edwards wrote:
>>
>>>>The General Rules of the 2005 ICGA WCCC seem to allow remote participation via
>>>>the Internet (at twice the entry fee) with the organizers providing an operator.
>>>
>>>I think this is a wrong assumption. If you play by proxy you have to pay twice
>>>the entry fee, but this doesn't automatically mean that the organizers provide
>>>an operator. I don't know if they do, but there is nothing written about it.
>>
>>If you are right, then why the fee doubling?
>
>One of the main purposes of these events besides the competition, as far as I
>understand, is to encourage active programmers to exchange fresh ideas on
>chessprogramming. So programmers are strongly encouraged to be present.
>
>Imagine you travelled to Iceland yourself to compete with your Symbolic toolkit
>at the world championship. Your first game is against Stefan Meyer-Kahlen's
>mighty Shredder engine, and you are strongly looking forward to meeting him.
>When you arrive, you discover he's not there at all. Instead you meet
>13-year-old Sigmar Chessfanson, a local kid hired by the organizers. He has
>trained hard, and is competent to enter the moves into the Shredder GUI like a
>pro. I can still imagine some slight disappointment on your side.
>
>This would be a sensible reason to make it tough for people to participate via
>proxy.
>
>Peter

Except it doesn't really make it tough. A program author can merely mean a
contributor to the opening book or tester. The rule is easily ducked by those
who find it convenient to do so.

>
>>
>>Surely there can be found some Icelander university student chess fan willing to
>>help with operating a program.  Maybe the extra portion of the fee would go to
>>him/her.
>>
>>>> For an amateur entrant, that's 50 Euro plus a membership in the ICGA (I let
>>>>mine lapse a few years ago).
>>>>
>>>>Symbolic's toolkit is not strong enough on my available hardware to have much
>>>>chance to place in the upper half of the field, although it would be interesting
>>>>to see some of the games.  It may very well be a different story for the next
>>>>WCCC in 2008 as surely (!) the cognitive search will be completed by then.
>>>
>>>The next WCCC is scheduled for 2006. It's a yearly event now.
>>
>>Uh oh.  How can I be expected to work under such pressure?  :-)



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